AV 86 BOG-LAX no longer B787
#16
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Every time I fly LAX-BOG I see a motley assortment of poorly dressed passengers boarding in Business at the last minute so I suspect there's quite a bit of underhanded upgrades. I did not mind on the 787 because the sleeper seats are quite private but on the awful A330, it is an unpleasant interaction.
#17
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Every time I fly LAX-BOG I see a motley assortment of poorly dressed passengers boarding in Business at the last minute so I suspect there's quite a bit of underhanded upgrades. I did not mind on the 787 because the sleeper seats are quite private but on the awful A330, it is an unpleasant interaction.
#18
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As others noted here the fact this was a 787 service was the only redeeming quality about this flight. The service isn't great and the food (in my multiple experiences) was dreadful. At least on the 787 I could get decent sleep. Now that this is switching to an A330, the only viable reason I can see for taking this flight is if I really, really need the nonstop segment. AV does not have a great A330 product.
#20
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: CA
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Well I have just returned from a MDE-BOG-LAX-BOG-MDE trip in Business. Totally full planes on every leg with an employee even occupying the jump seat on the LAX-BOG segment.The A330 seats are awful. Uncomfortable and as a previous poster noted, extremely unpleasant for one's feet. Another poster questioned the fare, I paid just a fraction under $2,200 and on the day later which I would have preferred they were asking $100 more! Food BOG-LAX, Economy standard at best but the return food, vile. The driest, tasteless chicken around with plain white rice and two sprigs of Bok Choy for vegetables and a salad that McDonald's would have been scared to offer. Only redeeming feature, the usual fast and organized baggage handling at every point. Fortunately, the Star Alliance at LAX is top rate and I ate there prior to boarding, excellent soups and a classy chicken curry.
#21
Join Date: Sep 2015
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And you haven’t seen anything yet. On my recent trip with Avianca I was sitting next to a pilot who was On duty coming back. He told me due to bad finance position Avianca is at the moment they will start cutting on food and alcohol services. I didn’t want to be rude but I am not sure how much you can cut. The food is the worst C food I ever had ( well, the panini BA used to offer was worse but that doesn’t count as it was short haul).
#22
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Really unhappy to find that I could only book on the awful Airbus 330 for the non-stop BOG-LAX roundtrip later this month. For a $2,000 fare I expect a quality airplane ( Boeing787 ) and a sleeper seat conformation especially for the return overnight flight. The catering continues to be dismal, Gate Gourmet = junk food, but absence of intermediate stopovers makes this flight a no-brainer. I think the new CEO of Avianca has a typical United attitude, cut service, cut costs and forget about the paying customers. He obviously was taught thrifty ways in his Netherland's homeland and is now applying those lessons in Colombia! Just wish there was a viable Star Alliance alternative.
Would you mind telling me if the 330 was the refurnished at least? The old 330 the seats were torn and the newer 330 look nice. I watched TPG on youtube
and his 330 was old while others looked nice. They were both 2,2,2, configuration with 3 rows galley and 2 rows.
Can you share with me your experience? Did the seats just recline or angle flat.
Thanks so much, I too bought the ticket and the plane changed. I flying in April.
#23
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Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 78
Hi,
Would you mind telling me if the 330 was the refurnished at least? The old 330 the seats were torn and the newer 330 look nice. I watched TPG on youtube
and his 330 was old while others looked nice. They were both 2,2,2, configuration with 3 rows galley and 2 rows.
Can you share with me your experience? Did the seats just recline or angle flat.
Thanks so much, I too bought the ticket and the plane changed. I flying in April.
Would you mind telling me if the 330 was the refurnished at least? The old 330 the seats were torn and the newer 330 look nice. I watched TPG on youtube
and his 330 was old while others looked nice. They were both 2,2,2, configuration with 3 rows galley and 2 rows.
Can you share with me your experience? Did the seats just recline or angle flat.
Thanks so much, I too bought the ticket and the plane changed. I flying in April.
#24
Join Date: Jun 2019
Programs: Marriott Titanium; WN A-list; UA Silver
Posts: 484
Hi Terry= I just flew AV86 on Feb 1 BOG-LAX. It was certainly the A330 the biz class seats looked like near lie flat NOT the standard recliner for US airlines in Domestic First if that helps. I downgraded my award ticket from Biz class when it was a 787 and ended up with one of the exit row seats in Coach. I thought it was a better option since the aircraft was the A330.
The 1-2-1 is the new style. The 1-2-1 would be worth the J premium if you think the 787 is worth it.
#26
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#27
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Well thanks for calling me out
Every time I fly LAX-BOG I see a motley assortment of poorly dressed passengers boarding in Business at the last minute so I suspect there's quite a bit of underhanded upgrades. I did not mind on the 787 because the sleeper seats are quite private but on the awful A330, it is an unpleasant interaction.