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Old May 30, 2018, 8:14 pm
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Is this a legal connection showing on LM site?




That's a 55m connection in NRT, and according to my reading of the minimum connection times from ExpertFlyer it needs to be 1h00m:

Code:
STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
OFFLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
** OR * ARE ALL
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 6751 - 7649 TRM 1 - 1
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359
**-NH II SUP GUM - GUM TRM 1 - 1
**-NH II SUP GUM - GUM TRM 2 - 1
**-NH II SUP SPN - GUM TRM 1 - 1
**-NH II SUP SPN - GUM TRM 2 - 1
**-NH II SUP GUM - ALL TRM 1 - 1 ALL - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP GUM - ALL TRM 2 - 1 ALL - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP SPN - ALL TRM 1 - 1 ALL - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP SPN - ALL TRM 2 - 1 ALL - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP ALL - GUM TRM 1 - 1 UNITED STATES - ALL
**-NH II SUP ALL - GUM TRM 2 - 1 UNITED STATES - ALL
**-NH II SUP TRM 1 - 1 UNITED STATES - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP TRM 2 - 1 UNITED STATES - UNITED STATES
**-** II 1.00 TRM 1 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 1
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 1 - 2
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 1 - 3
**-** II 2.10 TRM 2 - 3
**-** II 1.40 TRM 3 - 3
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Old May 31, 2018, 8:30 pm
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(Thought I was editing a post and ended up posting a new one. Mods can definitely delete this one.)
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Old May 31, 2018, 8:34 pm
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Alrighty, then. 130+ views in 24 hours and no comments. I'm not sure that I'm interpreting the EF connection time table correctly and/or if the EF table is even correct. There is only one F seat on the NH flight, and the longer I wait to book, the less likely it will still be there.
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 12:53 am
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Code:STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
OFFLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
** OR * ARE ALL
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 6751 - 7649 TRM 1 - 1
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359
**-NH II SUP GUM - GUM TRM 1 - 1
**-NH II SUP GUM - GUM TRM 2 - 1
**-NH II SUP SPN - GUM TRM 1 - 1
**-NH II SUP SPN - GUM TRM 2 - 1
**-NH II SUP GUM - ALL TRM 1 - 1 ALL - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP GUM - ALL TRM 2 - 1 ALL - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP SPN - ALL TRM 1 - 1 ALL - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP SPN - ALL TRM 2 - 1 ALL - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP ALL - GUM TRM 1 - 1 UNITED STATES - ALL
**-NH II SUP ALL - GUM TRM 2 - 1 UNITED STATES - ALL
**-NH II SUP TRM 1 - 1 UNITED STATES - UNITED STATES
**-NH II SUP TRM 2 - 1 UNITED STATES - UNITED STATES
**-** II 1.00 TRM 1 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 1
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 1 - 2
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 1 - 3
**-** II 2.10 TRM 2 - 3
**-** II 1.40 TRM 3 - 3


I think, itīs the 6th row, that makes your connection a legal one:TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359

MCT = 45 minutes

Your flight TG676 has the codeshare NH5956 and your flight NH10 has the codeshare TG6172.

Last edited by Dennis; Jun 1, 2018 at 1:00 am
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 3:21 am
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It looks like it will be within MCT. But I'd go ahead and book it anyway evebn if you thought it was outside MCT. Airline systems are usually pretty good in preventing flights on the same ticket breaching MCT rules.
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 11:36 pm
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
It looks like it will be within MCT. But I'd go ahead and book it anyway evebn if you thought it was outside MCT. Airline systems are usually pretty good in preventing flights on the same ticket breaching MCT rules.
Thanks for the prod! I booked it, but it the wheels fall off the wagon, it's all your fault. (Just kidding!)

I still don't see which line on the minimum connection chart would allow the sub-60-min connection, but LM confirmed the flights, and both TG and NH show them confirmed with the LM ticket number. Oops, I missed Dennis's post above.

Hmmm. Even EF won't show those flights as a connection if I specify BKK-JFK with NRT connection and TG & NH as the carriers: If I include code-shares on the EF availability search, the connection does appear as Dennis expected. LifeMiles must be more sophisticated that I thought to be able to factor in code-share flight numbers in their award seat search.

The reason I'm so fixated on this connection is that the TG A380 flight is the only 3-class flight BKK-NRT. The NH flights are 2-class, and often get assigned their regional 787-8 with cradle seats in J (aka Torture Seats.)

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Old Jun 2, 2018, 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by 1984SW
LifeMiles must be more sophisticated that I thought to be able to factor in code-share flight numbers in their award seat search.
Lifemiles isn't exactly always compliant though! They were selling tickets GUM-Japan-USA which were in violation of cabotage rules. But honestly, I'd be doing the same as you in your situation. At the end of the day it's only a potential 5 minute breach, worth any risks IMO (but maybe get to the airport early in BKK just in case!)
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