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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Apr 10, 2017, 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by ohiosux
Sorry to ask, but what do C1/C2/C3 stand for? Number of connections?
C1: North America
C2: Europe
C3: Asia
C4: South America
C5: Africa
C6: Oceania
C7: Antarctica
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 4:05 am
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Originally Posted by ohiosux
Sorry to ask, but what do C1/C2/C3 stand for? Number of connections?
In addition to mlqsko: I'd like to motivate you to read the WIKI, ohiosux --not only in this thread/forum
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 4:09 am
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Thank you, both!
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 5:09 am
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Well this will be interesting [LifeMiles Inks Seven Year Contract with IBS Software]
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
The booking will auto cancel if you don't call and pay in 24 hrs or so.
Thanks for the confirmation mlqsko!

Originally Posted by scibuff
Well this will be interesting [LifeMiles Inks Seven Year Contract with IBS Software]
Interesting in a good way or bad way?
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by iluvdoco
Any recent DPs as to how long screenshot booking requests take now?

I was expecting a response with 24 hours, but it's been 48 hours+ now. I checked this thread and some reported up to a week last year (!!) Mine was a simple booking.
Booking a OS itinerary (KBP-VIE-ORD in J):
Manual email sent: 4/5
Initial reply and forward to booking: 4/6
Email about confirmed reservation pending payment: 4/10
Paid: 4/10
Ticketed: Pending
There was a weekend in there to complicate things, but still a painstakingly long process.
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 8:35 pm
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 1:06 pm
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Angry No mixed cabin with screenshot method!

LM is losing value RAPIDLY for me...

Mr. _____,
It is a pleasure to greet you.

Concerning your request, the mixed cabin option is only applicable when the system displays such itinerary online. We cannot modify or create such combination; reason why, we invite you to attempt the miles redemption procedure again on alternate routes and/or dates under our Use → Airlines section (LifeMiles number and password needed).

Additionally, remember that our agents in the Avianca's Call Center may assist you on the ticket redemption process (with an additional redemption fee). Keep in mind that they will require your Call Center PIN. You can access the phone numbers by clicking here.

We appreciate your valuable time.
So, I am trying to get them to book a mixed cabin itinerary using the screenshot method. The flights are available. But they're just being very...LM.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by ohiosux
LM is losing value RAPIDLY for me...



So, I am trying to get them to book a mixed cabin itinerary using the screenshot method. The flights are available. But they're just being very...LM.
I didn't think they ever allowed mixed cabin screenshot booking?

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Old Apr 12, 2017, 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by ohiosux
LM is losing value RAPIDLY for me...
So, I am trying to get them to book a mixed cabin itinerary using the screenshot method. The flights are available. But they're just being very...LM.
Hey, no problem. LM will survive the loss of YOU!

And by the way, this are no news, that you're pubblishing here...
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Hey, no problem. LM will survive the loss of YOU!

And by the way, this are no news, that you're pubblishing here...
Who said I was leaving? Anyhow, this is the first I've heard about no mixed cabin screenshots. I didn't even think to search on it because, well, it's a stupid policy.
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Old Apr 13, 2017, 12:10 am
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Originally Posted by iluvdoco
I didn't think they ever allowed mixed cabin screenshot booking?
They never did.
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Old Apr 13, 2017, 4:46 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
They never did.
If you say so ...
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Old Apr 13, 2017, 9:24 am
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Surely you can book a mixed class Itinerary whereby the other class is not offered by carrier?

Example:

London - Frankfurt - Business Class
Frankfurt - USA - First Class



Originally Posted by mlqsko
They never did.
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Old Apr 13, 2017, 9:43 am
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This is right, but wrong.
You can book mixed classes of course with the ONLINE engine, but you could never book Mixed Classes Awards via Email. That is the point.
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