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Old Jan 28, 2014, 1:05 am
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Originally Posted by LAX888
Thanks for the review. How is ground handling at JFK for Asiana? I read you get to use the LX lounge which is average. Do you have to bring your luggage to TSA or will OZ do that for you or how is that handled?
I will be traveling that route in Business in Feb.
The LX Lounge at JFK is terrible. Some flyers previously claimed that they won't let you access the F side and that is true since the F side is not open in the morning and hence they make you use the J side, which is one of the worst lounges I have ever been in. Personally, I think that OZ doesn't force the LX staff to open the F side because very few people are actually paying for F.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by Always Flyin
Don't forget there is an F side to that LX lounge at JFK.

OZ has just opted not to to pay LX to use it.
Exactly. OZ will try to tell you that it is because the F side isn't open in the morning, but why isn't it open? Simple: because OZ doesn't want to pay LX to open it.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by Always Flyin
Don't forget there is an F side to that LX lounge at JFK.

OZ has just opted not to to pay LX to use it.
Agreed...also, the F side isn't even open, so it's not even possible to sweet talk (or stealthily slide into) the F side before the OZ departures. :-( I find it a poor ground experience that OZ doesn't attempt to create a better experience prior to boarding (no buggy, personal assistants for transfers, poor lounge food/drinks). I might have missed it, but it didn't appear there was any expedited security line for OZ First (although at the time I arrived it went pretty quickly without).

The check-in counters and agents at JFK were rather unremarkable. I'd expect they don't have any special treatment than they give to the economy passengers, even just lip service to see if there's any additional needs. I did like that all the Asiana check-ins had sample seat maps printed out for quick reference so you could ensure the ticketed seat numbers corresponded to your preferred seating location (aisle, windows, or pairings, etc).

Despite the poor ground experience, it was still 100% worth it to take the JFK-ICN suites flight for the inflight amazing experience. I even routed from DFW-IAH-JFK and ovenighted at JFK just to take this specific flight...and it did not disappoint. (Granted there's two perfectly decent direct flights from DFW, but that's no fun!)
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 1:39 pm
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just out of curiosity, is there an F lounge at LAX for OZ F passengers?
I didn't have enough time to check any of the lounges last time I flew OZ F out of LAX, so this made me wonder whether OZ has a dedicated F lounge at LAX.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by agjil
just out of curiosity, is there an F lounge at LAX for OZ F passengers?
I didn't have enough time to check any of the lounges last time I flew OZ F out of LAX, so this made me wonder whether OZ has a dedicated F lounge at LAX.
They use the *A First Class lounge.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 2:37 pm
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On the *A site for lounge finder it shows:

The Lounge Contracted Asiana (First/Business) International Terminal 4th Floor

Is this a non-airline run lounge you can also access?

And when you say that LX F side isn't open in the "mornings" like real morning or around 11-12ish? I'll have a 1pm JFK-ICN F trip the end of April and hoping for a decent ground experience (never really fly out of JFK)
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 3:01 pm
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Flying ICN-JFK in 3 weeks in F. What seat would people recommend? Traveling alone
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I loved my ICN-JFK flight in F in December. Amazing seat (way better than Thai A380) and great service. Take any of the single seats if you're flying alone. I had 2A, which is quiet since it's far from the galley.

The only disappointment was the F lounge in ICN wasn't that exciting. The food was mediocre (morning flight), but the flight itself had great food. LH FCL's still take the cake for me.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by JVPhoto
On the *A site for lounge finder it shows:

The Lounge Contracted Asiana (First/Business) International Terminal 4th Floor

Is this a non-airline run lounge you can also access?

And when you say that LX F side isn't open in the "mornings" like real morning or around 11-12ish? I'll have a 1pm JFK-ICN F trip the end of April and hoping for a decent ground experience (never really fly out of JFK)
There is a joint Star Alliance first class lounge OZ uses at LAX.

Forget a decent ground experience at JFK. You'll be in the austere business side of the Swiss lounge, which is at least after security now. Having been in the F side when flying LX in the past, you are not missing much.

Originally Posted by anandrag
Flying ICN-JFK in 3 weeks in F. What seat would people recommend? Traveling alone
2A, 2K, 1A, 1K, in that order of preference.

Originally Posted by Duke777
The only disappointment was the F lounge in ICN wasn't that exciting. The food was mediocre (morning flight), but the flight itself had great food. LH FCL's still take the cake for me.
Keep in mind that OZ only has F service to four cities and one of those is a regional flight (NRT). The economics of supporting a full service F lounge like LH or AF doesn't exist. It is a nice lounge, however, and at least it is not crowded and has all the facilities you would need.
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Yes but what is the "The Lounge" contracted by Asiana that it lists at JFK?

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Old Jan 28, 2014, 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by JVPhoto
Yes but what is the "The Lounge" contracted by Asiana that it lists at JFK?
OZ flies out of T4 at JFK uses the Swiss business class lounge.

Since there is no "International Terminal" at JFK, it is pretty clearly an error.
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Old Jan 29, 2014, 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by TrAAveller
Agreed...also, the F side isn't even open, so it's not even possible to sweet talk (or stealthily slide into) the F side before the OZ departures. :-( I find it a poor ground experience that OZ doesn't attempt to create a better experience prior to boarding (no buggy, personal assistants for transfers, poor lounge food/drinks). I might have missed it, but it didn't appear there was any expedited security line for OZ First (although at the time I arrived it went pretty quickly without).

The check-in counters and agents at JFK were rather unremarkable. I'd expect they don't have any special treatment than they give to the economy passengers, even just lip service to see if there's any additional needs. I did like that all the Asiana check-ins had sample seat maps printed out for quick reference so you could ensure the ticketed seat numbers corresponded to your preferred seating location (aisle, windows, or pairings, etc).

Despite the poor ground experience, it was still 100% worth it to take the JFK-ICN suites flight for the inflight amazing experience. I even routed from DFW-IAH-JFK and ovenighted at JFK just to take this specific flight...and it did not disappoint. (Granted there's two perfectly decent direct flights from DFW, but that's no fun!)
TBH I have never had any good check-in experience in the US regardless of which airline you fly. They interact as little as possible with the passenger and often have that bored look on their face.
I thought that maybe OZ would staff the check-in desks with some more competent staff but it seems that this is not the case.
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Old Jan 29, 2014, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by LAX888
TBH I have never had any good check-in experience in the US regardless of which airline you fly. They interact as little as possible with the passenger and often have that bored look on their face.
I thought that maybe OZ would staff the check-in desks with some more competent staff but it seems that this is not the case.
I second that. Honestly, I've never been blown away by the OZ boarding experience in ICN either though. It's way better than in the US, but I find the staff at the Diamond counter to be very matter-of-factly. Not that there's anything really wrong with that, it's just that the staff in FRA is always amazingly friendly to me and I've even ended up chatting with them for a bit on several occasions.
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Old Jan 29, 2014, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by jon503
I second that. Honestly, I've never been blown away by the OZ boarding experience in ICN either though. It's way better than in the US, but I find the staff at the Diamond counter to be very matter-of-factly. Not that there's anything really wrong with that, it's just that the staff in FRA is always amazingly friendly to me and I've even ended up chatting with them for a bit on several occasions.
Did you mean the LH or OZ staff at FRA?
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Old Feb 23, 2014, 9:01 am
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JFK-ICN F-Suite Flight Review

Looks like I got lucky as have seat 2A tomorrow morning for ICN-JFK!
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