Argentine Wines 101 and Q&A thread
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As far as Malbec is concerned, I prefer the Terrazas Alto over the basic offerings of both Norton and Alamos (a Catena brand). You will often find these three labels at the low end (price wise) in many decent restaurants. If you are on a tight budget, or just want something to go with pasta or pizza, I'd recommend the Terrazas Malbec or Cabernet.
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John-- In a similar price band to the Terrazas Alto, I suggest you try the Juan Benegas Malbec and the Luna Benegas Cabernet. Outside of straight varietals, Benegas also makes an entry level blend under their label Don Tiburcio which I think is a very strong performer. Im not sure if you can get Benegas in SFO, but sourcing these wines in EZE should be no problem.
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jancis robinson did argentina. FT article of march 3/4. article starts like most JC articles(locked in room, tasting over 100 wines a day....).
results can be seen here:
http://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/20070225
I had purchased a few cases of the tittarelli tempranillo that ms robinson so dislikes. I was amazed as to how delicious I thought this wine to be.
results can be seen here:
http://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/20070225
I had purchased a few cases of the tittarelli tempranillo that ms robinson so dislikes. I was amazed as to how delicious I thought this wine to be.
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Thanks for the heads up on the JC article... your comment reminds me how important it is to calibrate each & everyones palate to a given wine writer.
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Pasadoble rave by robert parker
http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/...ighlight=doble
note signature on first post in thread
further posts on the way down.
note signature on first post in thread
further posts on the way down.
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Yeah.... Robert Parker created a huge stir with this wine, I got 25 calls a day for weeks after that thread got started.... the wine is not sold in Argentina, export market only. I havent been able to get my hands on this, despite trying very hard to do so.
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Malbec from alt.food.wine
Forget that I present here the malbecs available at La Cabana in Buenos
Aires I have had a few and will note them, these go from expensive down
(IIRC)
Escorihuela Gascon one of my favorite $15 Malbecs
Achaval Ferrer I have seen this one in the US for $29-40
Rutini Rutini is a major player with a wide variety of price points
Alto Las Hormigas another good one
as are Norton and Terrazas
If you can't find any of these ... well, ask again!
Palo Domingo
Domingo Hnos., Yacochuya, Cafayate, Salta
Achaval Ferrer Altamira Ultra Premium
Achaval Ferrer, Finca Altamira, Mendoza
Yacochuya
San Pedro de Yacochuya, Cafayate, Salta
Angelica Zapata Alta
Fincas Catena Zapata, Agrelo, Mendoza
Val De Flores
Monteviejo, Vista Flores, Tunuyn, Mendoza
Cadus
Nieto Senetiner, Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Alto Alta Vista
Alta Vista, Finca Las Compuertas, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Doa Paula Seleccion De Bodega
Via Doa Paula, Ugarteche, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Rutini Antologia XII
Bodega La Rural, Maip, Mendoza
Rutini
Bodega La Rural, La Consulta, San Carlos, Mendoza
LindaFlor
Bodega Monteviejo, Monteviejo, Vista Flores, Mendoza
Piedra Negra
Jacques & Franois Lurton, Valle de Uco, Tunuyn, Mendoza
J. Alberto
Bodega Noema, Ro Negro, Patagonia
Ruca Maln Kinien
Bodega Ruca Maln, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Alto Las Hormigas Reserva
Alto Las Hormigas, Las Compuertas, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Finca La Anita
La Anita, Alto Agrelo, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Historico
Finca El Plumerillo, Colonia Las Rosas, Tunuyn, Mendoza
Monteviejo
Bodega Monteviejo, Monteviejo, Vista Flores, Mendoza
Matices De Abril
Bodegas Abril, Tunuyn, Mendoza
Family Reserve
Finca La Perserverancia, San Rafael, Mendoza
Tierras Altas Malbec Crianza
Vargas Arizu, Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Carmelo Patti
Finca El Lagar, Mayor Drummond, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Reserva
Fincas Don Martino, Mayor Drummond, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Laborum
Bodega El Porvenir, Valle del Cafayate, Salta
Partidas limitadas de 5.181 botellas
Domingo Molina
Domingo Hnos., Yacochuya, Cafayate, Salta
Famiglia Bianchi
Bodega Valentn Bianchi, San Rafael, Mendoza
Del Fin Del Mundo
Bodega del Fin del Mundo, San Patricio del Chaar, Neuqun
Gran Malbec. Flecha de los Andes
Bodega Flecha de los Andes, Vista Flores, Mendoza
Doa Paula Estate
Via Doa Paula, Alto Ugarteche, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Saint Felicien
Bodega Catena Zapata, Agrelo, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Alto Las Hormigas
Alto Las Hormigas, Las Compuertas, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Achaval Ferrer. Malbec Mendoza
Perdriel, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Perdriel Coleccion Privada
Bodega Norton, Perdriel, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Terrazas Reserva
Terrazas de los Andes, Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Obra Prima Malbec Reserva
Familia Cassone, Mayor Drummond, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Cinco Tierras
Bodega Banfi, Agrelo, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Finca Sophenia
Sophenia, Tupungato, Gualtayari, Mendoza
Luigi Bosca Reserva
Bodega Leoncio Arizu, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Lamarca
Bodega Lamarca, Tupungato, Mendoza
Altocedro Reserva
Vino de Autor, Santa Rosa, Mendoza
Via Amalia
Finca La Amalia, Altamira, San Carlos, Mendoza
Terrazas
Terrazas de los Andes, Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
El Peral
Finca El Peral, Tupungato, Mendoza
Escorihuela Gascon
Bodegas Escorihuela, La Consulta, Vistalba y Agrelo, Mendoza
Gran Malbec
Bodega Flecha de los Andes, Vista Flores, Mendoza
Reserva Malbec
Bodega Jacques & Francois Lurton, Tunuyam, Mendoza
El Plumerillo
Finca El Plumerillo, Colonia Las Rosas, Tunuyn, Mendoza
Santa Ercilia
Bodega Nogal, Valle de Uco, Mendoza
Pascual Toso
Pascual Toso Bodegas y Viedos, Finca Las Barrancas, Maip, Mendoza
Fabre - Montmayou
Domaine Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Martino
Fincas Don Martino, Agrelo, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Norton Doc
Norton, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
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Aires I have had a few and will note them, these go from expensive down
(IIRC)
Escorihuela Gascon one of my favorite $15 Malbecs
Achaval Ferrer I have seen this one in the US for $29-40
Rutini Rutini is a major player with a wide variety of price points
Alto Las Hormigas another good one
as are Norton and Terrazas
If you can't find any of these ... well, ask again!
Palo Domingo
Domingo Hnos., Yacochuya, Cafayate, Salta
Achaval Ferrer Altamira Ultra Premium
Achaval Ferrer, Finca Altamira, Mendoza
Yacochuya
San Pedro de Yacochuya, Cafayate, Salta
Angelica Zapata Alta
Fincas Catena Zapata, Agrelo, Mendoza
Val De Flores
Monteviejo, Vista Flores, Tunuyn, Mendoza
Cadus
Nieto Senetiner, Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Alto Alta Vista
Alta Vista, Finca Las Compuertas, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Doa Paula Seleccion De Bodega
Via Doa Paula, Ugarteche, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Rutini Antologia XII
Bodega La Rural, Maip, Mendoza
Rutini
Bodega La Rural, La Consulta, San Carlos, Mendoza
LindaFlor
Bodega Monteviejo, Monteviejo, Vista Flores, Mendoza
Piedra Negra
Jacques & Franois Lurton, Valle de Uco, Tunuyn, Mendoza
J. Alberto
Bodega Noema, Ro Negro, Patagonia
Ruca Maln Kinien
Bodega Ruca Maln, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Alto Las Hormigas Reserva
Alto Las Hormigas, Las Compuertas, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Finca La Anita
La Anita, Alto Agrelo, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Historico
Finca El Plumerillo, Colonia Las Rosas, Tunuyn, Mendoza
Monteviejo
Bodega Monteviejo, Monteviejo, Vista Flores, Mendoza
Matices De Abril
Bodegas Abril, Tunuyn, Mendoza
Family Reserve
Finca La Perserverancia, San Rafael, Mendoza
Tierras Altas Malbec Crianza
Vargas Arizu, Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Carmelo Patti
Finca El Lagar, Mayor Drummond, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Reserva
Fincas Don Martino, Mayor Drummond, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Laborum
Bodega El Porvenir, Valle del Cafayate, Salta
Partidas limitadas de 5.181 botellas
Domingo Molina
Domingo Hnos., Yacochuya, Cafayate, Salta
Famiglia Bianchi
Bodega Valentn Bianchi, San Rafael, Mendoza
Del Fin Del Mundo
Bodega del Fin del Mundo, San Patricio del Chaar, Neuqun
Gran Malbec. Flecha de los Andes
Bodega Flecha de los Andes, Vista Flores, Mendoza
Doa Paula Estate
Via Doa Paula, Alto Ugarteche, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Saint Felicien
Bodega Catena Zapata, Agrelo, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Alto Las Hormigas
Alto Las Hormigas, Las Compuertas, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Achaval Ferrer. Malbec Mendoza
Perdriel, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Perdriel Coleccion Privada
Bodega Norton, Perdriel, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Terrazas Reserva
Terrazas de los Andes, Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Obra Prima Malbec Reserva
Familia Cassone, Mayor Drummond, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Cinco Tierras
Bodega Banfi, Agrelo, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Finca Sophenia
Sophenia, Tupungato, Gualtayari, Mendoza
Luigi Bosca Reserva
Bodega Leoncio Arizu, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Lamarca
Bodega Lamarca, Tupungato, Mendoza
Altocedro Reserva
Vino de Autor, Santa Rosa, Mendoza
Via Amalia
Finca La Amalia, Altamira, San Carlos, Mendoza
Terrazas
Terrazas de los Andes, Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
El Peral
Finca El Peral, Tupungato, Mendoza
Escorihuela Gascon
Bodegas Escorihuela, La Consulta, Vistalba y Agrelo, Mendoza
Gran Malbec
Bodega Flecha de los Andes, Vista Flores, Mendoza
Reserva Malbec
Bodega Jacques & Francois Lurton, Tunuyam, Mendoza
El Plumerillo
Finca El Plumerillo, Colonia Las Rosas, Tunuyn, Mendoza
Santa Ercilia
Bodega Nogal, Valle de Uco, Mendoza
Pascual Toso
Pascual Toso Bodegas y Viedos, Finca Las Barrancas, Maip, Mendoza
Fabre - Montmayou
Domaine Vistalba, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Martino
Fincas Don Martino, Agrelo, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
Norton Doc
Norton, Lujn de Cuyo, Mendoza
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Great list of wines.... quite a few I like, others not so much... alas, thats the wonderful thing about wine, or...?
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2005 Pasodoble/Helene Garcin
I was impressed by a bottle of Clos de Andes Malbec that I opened last week from the same enterprise ($12.99 at Costco in the US). Still plenty of aging potential in this one.
I also picked up a bottle of the Susana Balbo Crios Torrontes ($11.99 retail) - since you and Jancis both agree on this :-)
Saludos!
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John... Great buys !!!
BTW, can I trouble you with the fine print on the back label of the Passodoble...? Im looking for website, producer name, maybe a legend that says "bottled by INV _____". Any details you could post on this issue would be really helpful.
The Poesia issue you mention could be because Im assuming that the same importer supplies the Passodoble and the Poesia wines to the retailer you bought your stuff from.
BTW, can I trouble you with the fine print on the back label of the Passodoble...? Im looking for website, producer name, maybe a legend that says "bottled by INV _____". Any details you could post on this issue would be really helpful.
The Poesia issue you mention could be because Im assuming that the same importer supplies the Passodoble and the Poesia wines to the retailer you bought your stuff from.
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Pasodoble label info
Alex -
Here's the info. Note the this is Pasodoble (c.f. Masi Tupungato Passo Doble). My wine merchant has carried all three wines, and they corrected the SKU/database entry when I pointed out the mismatch.
Is the INV entry the registration number from the Instituto Nacional de Vitivinicultura? (Note: the web site www.vignoblesgarcin.com is under construction). Now all you need is a taste ....
And congratulazioni on the impending Gauchito!!!
Front label:
Black background, 2005 and ARGENTINA in white lettering, PASODOBLE in red, B/W picture of a couple dancing.
Back label:
PASODOBLE
•AN ARGENTINEAN SENSATION•
2005
A blend of 34% Cabernet Sauvignon, 33% Malbec and 33% Syrah, this seductive wine reflects its Argentinean heritage combined with the expertise of the French family who made it. Try the wine slightly chilled and its passionate style will capture your imagination and sweep you on to the dance floor.
Helène Garcin Alain Raynaud
INV-M.N843441-E
750ml www.vignoblesgarcin.com ALC. 14,5% BY VOL.
PRODUCT OF ARGENTINA
RED WINE MENDOZA - ARGENTINA 34% Cab. Sauv. 33% Malbec 33% Syrah. BOTTLED BY BODEGA No INV B71660 FOR SELECCION VINEA S.A. No EXP.B87880.
Imported by Wine Source Selections (South Kearny, New Jersey).
Here's the info. Note the this is Pasodoble (c.f. Masi Tupungato Passo Doble). My wine merchant has carried all three wines, and they corrected the SKU/database entry when I pointed out the mismatch.
Is the INV entry the registration number from the Instituto Nacional de Vitivinicultura? (Note: the web site www.vignoblesgarcin.com is under construction). Now all you need is a taste ....
And congratulazioni on the impending Gauchito!!!
Front label:
Black background, 2005 and ARGENTINA in white lettering, PASODOBLE in red, B/W picture of a couple dancing.
Back label:
PASODOBLE
•AN ARGENTINEAN SENSATION•
2005
A blend of 34% Cabernet Sauvignon, 33% Malbec and 33% Syrah, this seductive wine reflects its Argentinean heritage combined with the expertise of the French family who made it. Try the wine slightly chilled and its passionate style will capture your imagination and sweep you on to the dance floor.
Helène Garcin Alain Raynaud
INV-M.N843441-E
750ml www.vignoblesgarcin.com ALC. 14,5% BY VOL.
PRODUCT OF ARGENTINA
RED WINE MENDOZA - ARGENTINA 34% Cab. Sauv. 33% Malbec 33% Syrah. BOTTLED BY BODEGA No INV B71660 FOR SELECCION VINEA S.A. No EXP.B87880.
Imported by Wine Source Selections (South Kearny, New Jersey).
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John, thank you kindly for the well wishes and also for your research on the label. I will get to work using this information !!!
Cheers,
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Cheers,
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Hello Baboboy.... are you sure its Madrano, or perhaps Medrano?
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If we are talking about Medrano Malbec, its made by a producer called Lagarde. I havent tasted these wines, but from what I read on the web they are young and unoaked varietals, made under the "easy to drink" concept. If you are looking for a lighter, fruit forward wine with medium structure and not overly complex, this should be a good choice.




