the AMAZING VALUE in Argentina now - a practical example
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the AMAZING VALUE in Argentina now - a practical example
Cheers to all from a rainy EZE..... I wanted to share a practical example of what sort of Value for Money Buenos Aires currently offers. While it is only one data point, I think most of you will agree that is serves to exemplify the kind of 'gas mileage' visitors will be able to get out of an upcoming visit. This information is valid as per mid-October of 2020, with a USD to AR$ informal (blue market) exchange rate of AR$185 to the US Dollar.
Last Sunday was Mother's Day here in Argentina. Our two kids and I went out for Lunch with my Wife. We visited Unido, a Restaurant located just outside of Nordelta, the large Real Estate Development just North of the City. While its not a restaurant that tourists would normally visit, it shares the same target audience and its price range is in the same segment that many of the restaurants that cater to upscale Tourists - and are located in areas like Recoleta, Palermo, Puerto Madero will offer.
We had a long lunch, ordering a-la-carte. We had 5 (five) appetizers, 4 (four) main courses, and 3 (three) desserts. Beverages were one Beer (Corona), 4 house-made lemonades, 2 bottles of Bottled Water and 1 bottle of Sparking Wine (the second most expensive on the wine-list). We finished it off with 2 Nespressos.....
It was quite a lot of food... but I pigged-out and our 13 year-old has the appetite of 1.5 adult males (2 adults if I allow him to order as much as he wants). The Kid can eat !!!
The total bill was AR$11,400.- (gratuity not included)
Assuming an exchange rate of AR$185 Pesos, that comes out to $61 and change in US Dollars
Enough said. Time to plan your next trip to EZE.....
Last Sunday was Mother's Day here in Argentina. Our two kids and I went out for Lunch with my Wife. We visited Unido, a Restaurant located just outside of Nordelta, the large Real Estate Development just North of the City. While its not a restaurant that tourists would normally visit, it shares the same target audience and its price range is in the same segment that many of the restaurants that cater to upscale Tourists - and are located in areas like Recoleta, Palermo, Puerto Madero will offer.
We had a long lunch, ordering a-la-carte. We had 5 (five) appetizers, 4 (four) main courses, and 3 (three) desserts. Beverages were one Beer (Corona), 4 house-made lemonades, 2 bottles of Bottled Water and 1 bottle of Sparking Wine (the second most expensive on the wine-list). We finished it off with 2 Nespressos.....
It was quite a lot of food... but I pigged-out and our 13 year-old has the appetite of 1.5 adult males (2 adults if I allow him to order as much as he wants). The Kid can eat !!!
The total bill was AR$11,400.- (gratuity not included)
Assuming an exchange rate of AR$185 Pesos, that comes out to $61 and change in US Dollars
Enough said. Time to plan your next trip to EZE.....
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What we need to clarify is that under no circumstances should visitors use foreign credit cards.
As far as I can see if you don't have a DNI which could allow you to open MercadoPago or a bank account, the best exchange rate (other than an "arbolito" on the street) is sending funds via WesternUnion which as of today was...1.00 USD = 170.6800 Argentine Peso (ARS) while Xoom which also has cash pickup is at 1 USD = 162.3194 ARS. Another side note, many stores don't have more than 200 USD equivalent even at mid-day so might help to call a store in advance to see if they have the funds. (Issues in Palermo/Belgrano) Planning on writing an article about it as starting in November? Neighboring countries can visit...
As far as I can see if you don't have a DNI which could allow you to open MercadoPago or a bank account, the best exchange rate (other than an "arbolito" on the street) is sending funds via WesternUnion which as of today was...1.00 USD = 170.6800 Argentine Peso (ARS) while Xoom which also has cash pickup is at 1 USD = 162.3194 ARS. Another side note, many stores don't have more than 200 USD equivalent even at mid-day so might help to call a store in advance to see if they have the funds. (Issues in Palermo/Belgrano) Planning on writing an article about it as starting in November? Neighboring countries can visit...
#3
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Hard to articulate how much I would love to return to BA. Had to cxl in the spring, then rebooked for early December (actually a MIA-SCL flight, then was/am planning to take Sky over to BA). But, man, it still looks grim...even if Chile and Argentina are open to US citizens, how big a hassle will it be? How many of my favorite activities in BA will be up and running? What restrictions will be in place? Hell, I'm in Maui now and it was fine mess just getting here.
I'm keenly aware what a travel bargain BA is and early December should be lovely and warm. I will keep watching this space, of course. In the meantime, I made back up plans for Costa Rica. Figure I have about three weeks before I need to decide, assuming I have options. Fingers crossed.
I'm keenly aware what a travel bargain BA is and early December should be lovely and warm. I will keep watching this space, of course. In the meantime, I made back up plans for Costa Rica. Figure I have about three weeks before I need to decide, assuming I have options. Fingers crossed.
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Once the borders open up to US tourists, everything will be Open for Business.... restaurants and bars are already open and doing business - yes there are capacity controls and different protocols but you will have plenty of places to go, shopping and all the other usual activities.
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What we need to clarify is that under no circumstances should visitors use foreign credit cards.
As far as I can see if you don't have a DNI which could allow you to open MercadoPago or a bank account, the best exchange rate (other than an "arbolito" on the street) is sending funds via WesternUnion which as of today was...1.00 USD = 170.6800 Argentine Peso (ARS) while Xoom which also has cash pickup is at 1 USD = 162.3194 ARS. Another side note, many stores don't have more than 200 USD equivalent even at mid-day so might help to call a store in advance to see if they have the funds. (Issues in Palermo/Belgrano) Planning on writing an article about it as starting in November? Neighboring countries can visit...
As far as I can see if you don't have a DNI which could allow you to open MercadoPago or a bank account, the best exchange rate (other than an "arbolito" on the street) is sending funds via WesternUnion which as of today was...1.00 USD = 170.6800 Argentine Peso (ARS) while Xoom which also has cash pickup is at 1 USD = 162.3194 ARS. Another side note, many stores don't have more than 200 USD equivalent even at mid-day so might help to call a store in advance to see if they have the funds. (Issues in Palermo/Belgrano) Planning on writing an article about it as starting in November? Neighboring countries can visit...
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Once the borders open up to US tourists, everything will be Open for Business.... restaurants and bars are already open and doing business - yes there are capacity controls and different protocols but you will have plenty of places to go, shopping and all the other usual activities.
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I think there will be a lot of bargains in the world, as travel opens up again. I’m staying in a very nice 4 star hotel in Jakarta, upgraded to a very nice suite. Restaurant with lots of food for breakfast, in person or room service, afternoon tea, evening cocktails with three pretty large plates of food items. Only $45 plus tax/service for my entire family, a day.
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TransferWise on my last exchange which was sent November 5th ( 125.00 USD ) She received 9,276.96 ARS which was 78.9730 per 1usd. I always used Western Union and knew it was higher but did not realize that I could have gotten a lot more at the time. Now I know to just get up and go to send instead of using the transferwise app.
Thanks,
EWR2EZE
Thanks,
EWR2EZE
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No, this isn't a joke. It is a practical consideration for anyone considering travel.
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Yes the cost of all goods/services here just don't stand still when the dollar is stronger than usual. Hence why I find these threads a tad missleading.
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JC, the real bargain in Indonesia was in 1997
I rented a big SUV for $6/day and filled it up with 6c/liter gasoline. I was there shortly after the Indonesian Rupiah had declined from Rp 2000 to Rp 15000 to 1USD.