Amtrak AGR Upgrade Voucher Compendium
Feb 2, 2012, 12:36 pm
#17
Join Date: Oct 2010
Programs: AGR Select
Posts: 59
I once tried to do a two segment through fare upgrade by phone and my reservation was completely mangled (repriced in a non-sensical fashion) by an Amtrak reservations agent. In addition, only one of the two segments was actually upgraded. While I managed to get this fixed at the station, I have learned to NEVER attempt this two segment upgrade for a through fare itinerary with anyone other than an experienced agent in Washington or Boston.
Mar 7, 2012, 6:34 pm
#18
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BOS<>NYC<>BKK
Programs: UA 4.3MM LT-GS; AA1MM; Amtrak SE; MAR LT TITAN; PC Plat; HIL DIA; HYA GLOB
Posts: 4,392
A few days ago I ordered my packet of five upgrade coupons for 10,000 points. They arrived today. They are the usual 12-hour variety, and have an expiration date of MARCH 31, 2013. That's right, MARCH. Thirteen months validity ^ The coupons that came with the S+ packet expire February 28, 2013.
Mar 8, 2012, 7:40 am
#19
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: UA Gold Premier, AA Life Platinum 3MM, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 75
gatelouse asks: "Can exchangeable tickets (e.g. 14-day NEC fares) that can't be upgraded at time of booking be upgraded with a coupon?"
I am not sure what qualifies as an "exchangeable" ticket, but I can assure you that I have tried and consistently failed to be able to use an upgrade coupon to upgrade any Acela ticket that is discounted (e.g., AAA fare on the weekend or a discounted non-refundable 14 day advance purchase). The argument offered is that the advance purchase requirement (three days and 14 days respectively) precludes the reissuance of the ticket within either a 48 or 12 hour window prior to travel.
I am not sure what qualifies as an "exchangeable" ticket, but I can assure you that I have tried and consistently failed to be able to use an upgrade coupon to upgrade any Acela ticket that is discounted (e.g., AAA fare on the weekend or a discounted non-refundable 14 day advance purchase). The argument offered is that the advance purchase requirement (three days and 14 days respectively) precludes the reissuance of the ticket within either a 48 or 12 hour window prior to travel.
Last edited by Rover75; Mar 8, 2012 at 7:54 am
Mar 8, 2012, 7:53 am
#20
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: UA Gold Premier, AA Life Platinum 3MM, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 75
notacolour asks: "Do you go to the ticket window, or to the agents in the ClubAcela [to do a two segment upgrade with a single upgrade coupon]?"
I have been consistently successful using the Club Acela in DC and various ticket agents at the Route 128 Boston station. These are the only places I do my two segment upgrades. (Ten years ago I had a very rude and bitter experience at Boston South Station with an agent who would not allow me to redeem an award ticket for my aging-- now deceased-- father, despite the fact that he had the same name as mine, unless I produced him and his ID in person at the station. I have not had any contact with an Amtrak ticket agent at South Station since then.)
I have been consistently successful using the Club Acela in DC and various ticket agents at the Route 128 Boston station. These are the only places I do my two segment upgrades. (Ten years ago I had a very rude and bitter experience at Boston South Station with an agent who would not allow me to redeem an award ticket for my aging-- now deceased-- father, despite the fact that he had the same name as mine, unless I produced him and his ID in person at the station. I have not had any contact with an Amtrak ticket agent at South Station since then.)
Mar 13, 2012, 8:20 pm
#21
In Memoriam
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New York, NY, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Amtrak Exec
Posts: 3,262
gatelouse asks: "Can exchangeable tickets (e.g. 14-day NEC fares) that can't be upgraded at time of booking be upgraded with a coupon?"
I am not sure what qualifies as an "exchangeable" ticket, but I can assure you that I have tried and consistently failed to be able to use an upgrade coupon to upgrade any Acela ticket that is discounted (e.g., AAA fare on the weekend or a discounted non-refundable 14 day advance purchase). The argument offered is that the advance purchase requirement (three days and 14 days respectively) precludes the reissuance of the ticket within either a 48 or 12 hour window prior to travel.
I am not sure what qualifies as an "exchangeable" ticket, but I can assure you that I have tried and consistently failed to be able to use an upgrade coupon to upgrade any Acela ticket that is discounted (e.g., AAA fare on the weekend or a discounted non-refundable 14 day advance purchase). The argument offered is that the advance purchase requirement (three days and 14 days respectively) precludes the reissuance of the ticket within either a 48 or 12 hour window prior to travel.
Yes, you cannot use any discount when you also wish to use a free upgrade coupon. But there is simply no reason that the agent cannot cancel out the existing reservation and credit your card back for that and then start a new reservation for you. Yes, you do run the risk that the bucket is now higher than it was at the time of booking, but if you're willing to pay that or lucky enough that the bucket wasn't kicked, then there is no reason that you cannot use that coupon.
That said, it's best to try an plan ahead and simply book a non-discounted fare if you're considering using a coupon.
Mar 28, 2012, 2:23 pm
#22
Company Representative - Amtrak
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: Amtrak Guest Rewards (Select Executive)
Posts: 528
Upgrade coupons are combinable with 14 day advance fare on Northeast Regional
You are permitted to use your upgrade coupon with the 14-day advance fares on the Northeast Regional. Upgrade coupons are not combinable with discounts, but these are "fares" not "discounts" and therefore you may apply your upgrade coupon. There is no 14-day advance fare available on Acela.
Vicky Radke
Amtrak Guest Rewards
Vicky Radke
Amtrak Guest Rewards
Mar 29, 2012, 7:57 am
#23
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: Amtrak Select
Posts: 333
A few days ago I ordered my packet of five upgrade coupons for 10,000 points. They arrived today. They are the usual 12-hour variety, and have an expiration date of MARCH 31, 2013. That's right, MARCH. Thirteen months validity ^ The coupons that came with the S+ packet expire February 28, 2013.
Aug 10, 2012, 5:58 pm
#24
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: Amtrak Select Plus, Marriott Platinum, Marriott Lifetime Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,123
They are providing F e-tickets without requiring the physical coupon. Doesn't make business sense. Should go to e-coupons next year, if they have the capability.
Sep 6, 2012, 6:45 am
#25
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Greener Pastures
Posts: 10,515
You are permitted to use your upgrade coupon with the 14-day advance fares on the Northeast Regional. Upgrade coupons are not combinable with discounts, but these are "fares" not "discounts" and therefore you may apply your upgrade coupon. There is no 14-day advance fare available on Acela.
Vicky Radke
Amtrak Guest Rewards
Vicky Radke
Amtrak Guest Rewards
I just posted in this thread - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amtra...low-fares.html - as I didn't pay attention to this sticky.
Sep 6, 2012, 7:09 am
#26
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PHL
Programs: AA(PPro), UA, AGR, BW(Plat), HH, WoH, MB(S)
Posts: 778
From the Terms and Conditions for the 14-day fare:
"Non-upgradable" seems pretty clear. If that does not include a coupon upgrade, the clause should be reworded and the agents informed.
Terms & Conditions
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- Non-upgradeable. Fare is valid for class of service listed only.
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- Non-upgradeable. Fare is valid for class of service listed only.
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Sep 6, 2012, 5:49 pm
#27
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Greener Pastures
Posts: 10,515
Amtrak AGR Upgrade Voucher Compendium
Agreed. They should also have an option to book an upgradable fare.
That said, hoping AGR Insider can clarify because her comments are very different than what you posted and what agents say over the phone - but aligned with the agents actions at NYP when they upgraded me today (as they've done every time I've tried with the H121 cents on this $49 fare)
That said, hoping AGR Insider can clarify because her comments are very different than what you posted and what agents say over the phone - but aligned with the agents actions at NYP when they upgraded me today (as they've done every time I've tried with the H121 cents on this $49 fare)
Sep 7, 2012, 10:25 am
#28
Company Representative - Amtrak
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: Amtrak Guest Rewards (Select Executive)
Posts: 528
Hi All,
Thank you for alerting us to this issue with your Amtrak Guest Rewards upgrade coupons and the 14 day advanced purchase ($49) fare. There has been no change in policy and Amtrak Guest Rewards coupons are compatible and can be used with the 14 day advanced purchase fare on the Northeast Regional. We are working to ensure that all of our agents are trained accordingly. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.
Best,
Becky Parks
Senior Marketing Officer, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Thank you for alerting us to this issue with your Amtrak Guest Rewards upgrade coupons and the 14 day advanced purchase ($49) fare. There has been no change in policy and Amtrak Guest Rewards coupons are compatible and can be used with the 14 day advanced purchase fare on the Northeast Regional. We are working to ensure that all of our agents are trained accordingly. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.
Best,
Becky Parks
Senior Marketing Officer, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Dec 24, 2012, 12:26 pm
#29
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE, AA EXP MM, UA Gold MM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Titanium, HH Dia, IHG Plat
Posts: 4,777
Any Problems Using UG Coupon When Using Transportation Certificate for Base Fare?
Just as airlines issue compensation certificates for poor service, Amtrak does so too. My question is, if I reserve an Acela Business seat using that certificate, can I later upgrade using a coupon within the 48-hour window?
The reason I ask is because Amtrak's upgrade process is so convoluted, requiring a refund of the original fare and a new fare charge.
The reason I ask is because Amtrak's upgrade process is so convoluted, requiring a refund of the original fare and a new fare charge.
Dec 24, 2012, 5:13 pm
#30
In Memoriam
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New York, NY, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Amtrak Exec
Posts: 3,262
Do know that your eTicket will become invalid and will not work if you are successful in using the coupon. And the reservation will disappear from your smart phone's App I believe. When you turn in the coupon, the agent will give you a new eTicket on Amtrak ticket stock.