What are the chances of a plat amex?
#1
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What are the chances of a plat amex?
Just wondering if there is any way I can get myself a Platinum Charge Card (in UK). I've had the Plat Credit Card for a year (next month), paid every single bill as soon as I got it, in full. Next month I will be getting my 2% cash back.
I'm a 21 year old student (no loan), I do not make the required £30,000 for the Plat Charge Card (but then again when I applied for the Credit Card I didn't make the required £20,000 a year -I got it "pre approved application through the post. I could probably make it up to about £22,000 a year, but wouldn’t be entirely true nor entirely false. I am nearly completely funded (whilst at university) by my Dad (with Jobs during the holidays). My Dad refuses to add me as Plat account holders under his Centurion account –but I don’t want that anyway. He has been with AMEX since 1975 or thereabouts.
Having lost my HHonors Gold card this year and I will no doubt lose my Gold Elite Card with KLM, I could do with the Plat Charge card for these benefits alone.
Any chance that if I'm nice to them on the phone they'll give me one? I am more than happy to pay the £275 a year for the card and I don't mind having an exposure limit of £1000 a month (which is far less then my current Credit Limit). I’m even willing to allow them to keep my 2% cash back (which is quite a lot) and pay the annual fee if they give me one.
Obviously I can not fill the form in online and I am not really willing to lie on any application form. Any hints as to who I can speak to? I know there are rules, but as a youngster I feel these are made to be broken. As I understand it, even my dad has a limit on his card, so they do have them. Would AMEX see me as a risk in any way? If I really needed to, I could just say my dad gives me 30,000 a year, but would they want prove of this? On my Credit Card application I scored out employer and just put "money comes from daddy" (as a joke) but they still gave me the card.
Thanks,
Chris
I'm a 21 year old student (no loan), I do not make the required £30,000 for the Plat Charge Card (but then again when I applied for the Credit Card I didn't make the required £20,000 a year -I got it "pre approved application through the post. I could probably make it up to about £22,000 a year, but wouldn’t be entirely true nor entirely false. I am nearly completely funded (whilst at university) by my Dad (with Jobs during the holidays). My Dad refuses to add me as Plat account holders under his Centurion account –but I don’t want that anyway. He has been with AMEX since 1975 or thereabouts.
Having lost my HHonors Gold card this year and I will no doubt lose my Gold Elite Card with KLM, I could do with the Plat Charge card for these benefits alone.
Any chance that if I'm nice to them on the phone they'll give me one? I am more than happy to pay the £275 a year for the card and I don't mind having an exposure limit of £1000 a month (which is far less then my current Credit Limit). I’m even willing to allow them to keep my 2% cash back (which is quite a lot) and pay the annual fee if they give me one.
Obviously I can not fill the form in online and I am not really willing to lie on any application form. Any hints as to who I can speak to? I know there are rules, but as a youngster I feel these are made to be broken. As I understand it, even my dad has a limit on his card, so they do have them. Would AMEX see me as a risk in any way? If I really needed to, I could just say my dad gives me 30,000 a year, but would they want prove of this? On my Credit Card application I scored out employer and just put "money comes from daddy" (as a joke) but they still gave me the card.
Thanks,
Chris
#2
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I remember on my eighteenth birthday applying for every credit card and storecard that my parents had, and I was quickly accepted for all of them. I found out this was because I had the same surname and address as long standing existing card holders. It's quite likely the same principle would apply with you and Amex. You could try being 100% truthful on the application and you might be accepted, despite failing to meet one of the criteria.
#3
Join Date: Jul 2004
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This applies to me-
My income is enough to apply for the Amex Platinum card but I first started out with the Amex Green Charge Card and the Amex Blue Card. I just upgraded from the Amex Green to Amex Platinum.
Here in the US, the Amex Platinum income requirement is waved if you have another Amex card for at least 6 months.
I'm not sure if this is the same with UK applicants.
My income is enough to apply for the Amex Platinum card but I first started out with the Amex Green Charge Card and the Amex Blue Card. I just upgraded from the Amex Green to Amex Platinum.
Here in the US, the Amex Platinum income requirement is waved if you have another Amex card for at least 6 months.
I'm not sure if this is the same with UK applicants.
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Originally Posted by csdavidson
Any chance that if I'm nice to them on the phone they'll give me one? I am more than happy to pay the £275 a year for the card and I don't mind having an exposure limit of £1000 a month (which is far less then my current Credit Limit). I’m even willing to allow them to keep my 2% cash back (which is quite a lot) and pay the annual fee if they give me one.
Amex will pretty much give a Platinum card to anyone who asks for one and is willing to pay the fee. You age and credit rating may count against you though - these are scored by computer, not by real people. You should get a copy of your credit report and see what it says, check out Equifax and Experian on the web, it only costs £2 and you can find out what they think of you.
If you really want to apply for the card, then include the 30 grand that your dad gives you as part of your income. Technically it is an income, the fact that you don't have to work for it is not relevant. I think there is a check box for "independant means" where it asks where your money comes from (employment, investments etc).
#5
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Originally Posted by Ex Amex Card
I am confused as to why you want to give up the free platinum card with 2% cashback so you can pay £275 for the same card (...)
Last edited by ahrz; Aug 2, 2004 at 9:17 am
#6
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Originally Posted by Ex Amex Card
If you really want to apply for the card, then include the 30 grand that your dad gives you as part of your income. Technically it is an income, the fact that you don't have to work for it is not relevant. I think there is a check box for "independant means" where it asks where your money comes from (employment, investments etc).
As ahrz pointed out, the credit card does not give the same benefits. Ideally I want the priority pass and the HHonours Gold card as I am about to lose the one I have (earned) and I am about to lose my KLM GE at the end of this year...
Has anyone got a number that I can call (from abroad) so that I can ask Amex directly. The worst they can say is no...I can't seem to find one on the UK website, unless it's the Platinum Card number or would I be best speaking to my current customer service number?
Chris
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Originally Posted by csdavidson
Has anyone got a number that I can call (from abroad) so that I can ask Amex directly. The worst they can say is no...I can't seem to find one on the UK website, unless it's the Platinum Card number or would I be best speaking to my current customer service number?
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Originally Posted by csdavidson
I do not make £30,000 a year, nor does my dad give me that (I wish ). If I said my dad gave me that, would they want me to prove it?
btw, as far as I am aware they don't check your income rigorously they just call you asking to confirm it. Where I worked last summer every gave the branch manager of the bank as their employers contact and he was never called by credit card companies
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Originally Posted by csdavidson
As ahrz pointed out, the credit card does not give the same benefits. Ideally I want the priority pass and the HHonours Gold card as I am about to lose the one I have (earned) and I am about to lose my KLM GE at the end of this year...
#10
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I have been sent a few recomend a friend or family member to platinum membership forms. If you have difficulty in applying or want a semi fast track route to applying then private message me and I will see what I can do to help.
Best
KVU
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KVU
#11
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Originally Posted by KVU
I have been sent a few recomend a friend or family member to platinum membership forms. If you have difficulty in applying or want a semi fast track route to applying then private message me and I will see what I can do to help
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Originally Posted by fbgdavidson
Is this the 10,000 MR point offer?