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Sandeep1 Dec 31, 2019 11:08 pm

Airline fee $250/$200/$100 reimbursement reports: WN (Southwest) only (2020-21)
 
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Krazymager Jan 1, 2020 9:15 am


Originally Posted by ChrisZXWJ (Post 31892639)
Hi All - just wanted to provide a quick data point.

12/27 - Applied for and received approval for AMEX Hilton Aspire and saved my instant card number.
12/27, 5 minutes after approval - Chatted with an AMEX rep to make Southwest my airline choice.
12/27, 15 minutes after chatting - Received e-mail confirming Southwest as my airline choice.
12/27, 15 minutes after receiving e-mail - Booked 3 separate one-way 'dummy' flights for $93.98 on Southwest's website, logged into my rapid rewards account.. I planned on waiting until after the 24 hour period to cancel the flights since we'll use Southwest credit sometime in 2020 anyway.
12/30 - AMEX credits post for $93.98, $93.98 and $62.04. No 'meter' movement prior to credits posting. Card is showing $31.94 balance.

Does everyone get an instant card number upon approval? I don’t think I got one with mine and I’m sure my wife didn’t get one either. However, she was approved the 29th and upon calling and explaining we wanted the card ASAP they rush delivered (UPS) the card and it got here the 31st. They said they couldn’t give out any info about the card number and that it wasn’t even in their system till the 30th even though I could see the last few numbers on the online account as she has more than one Amex card.

12/29: Southwest as airline.
12/31: Purchased 3 separate tickets ($99.88, $99.88, $58.88).
1/1: Meter shows 2020 data ($250 available). No reimbursements yet. Purchases still pending.

Kenneth B. Trevias Jan 1, 2020 9:40 am


Originally Posted by dhuey (Post 31894718)
For those with $200 in credit, there are mid-week one-ways from OAK to LAX going for $69 in late January. That's just about perfect ($69 x 3 = $207). I'm going to grab 9 of those tomorrow on our 3 Plat accounts.

A bit better option (saving dollars and pennies)... if available... LAX-SFO... flights in either Jan, Feb or Mar
($49 × 3 and $54= $200.92)

This will be on my to do list for Jan. 2nd- not going to risk delays of maybe doing it today- the 1st- and waiting too late in the months for maybe this "reimbursement" being fixed in system later in 2020.

danhouston Jan 1, 2020 9:52 am

for a purch >$100, any DPs that it got a credit? sorry if i may miss any previous posts. Thx

Krazymager Jan 1, 2020 10:30 am


Originally Posted by danhouston (Post 31896243)
for a purch >$100, any DPs that it got a credit? sorry if i may miss any previous posts. Thx

Yes, a few. Mostly $102-103. Saw a couple slightly higher. As always, YMMV.

Soccerjoshj07 Jan 1, 2020 11:11 am


Originally Posted by Kenneth B. Trevias (Post 31896204)
A bit better option (saving dollars and pennies)... if available... LAX-SFO... flights in either Jan, Feb or Mar
($49 × 3 and $54= $200.92)

This will be on my to do list for Jan. 2nd- not going to risk delays of maybe doing it today- the 1st- and waiting too late in the months for maybe this "reimbursement" being fixed in system later in 2020.

Remember I think you can only use up to 2? vouchers when booking a flight. You can of course combine them by booking a final dummy flight

Soccerjoshj07 Jan 1, 2020 11:12 am


Originally Posted by Kenneth B. Trevias (Post 31896204)
A bit better option (saving dollars and pennies)... if available... LAX-SFO... flights in either Jan, Feb or Mar
($49 × 3 and $54= $200.92)

This will be on my to do list for Jan. 2nd- not going to risk delays of maybe doing it today- the 1st- and waiting too late in the months for maybe this "reimbursement" being fixed in system later in 2020.

why 2nd? Just for fun? I'm doing it today.

Tim Pham Jan 1, 2020 1:24 pm

Amex plat Card Approval: 12/25
Chose Airline 12/28:
Bought tickets like 20 minutes after on 12/28 - 93$ and 91$
Credit posted 12/28
Today 1/1, I still see no reimbursement and my meter still says I have $200 to spend, Anyone think I'll still get reimbursed?

Sandeep1 Jan 1, 2020 4:13 pm


Originally Posted by Soccerjoshj07 (Post 31896497)
Remember I think you can only use up to 2? vouchers when booking a flight. You can of course combine them by booking a final dummy flight

I believe you can do 3 vouchers as long as the 3rd covers the remainder of the cost. You can't do 3 and then use a CC to cover the rest.

danhouston Jan 1, 2020 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by Tim Pham (Post 31896948)
Amex plat Card Approval: 12/25
Chose Airline 12/28:
Bought tickets like 20 minutes after on 12/28 - 93$ and 91$
Credit posted 12/28
Today 1/1, I still see no reimbursement and my meter still says I have $200 to spend, Anyone think I'll still get reimbursed?

That's right...credit posted 12/28, so 2019 cr was given; for 2020, $200 is still available; reimbursement will likely come in next few days

sailorman2439 Jan 1, 2020 5:22 pm

I've tried searching, but are there any DP's for whether you get to keep the credit if you request a refund?

danhouston Jan 1, 2020 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by sailorman2439 (Post 31897703)
I've tried searching, but are there any DP's for whether you get to keep the credit if you request a refund?

don't risk a shutdown or clawback

GundamWing01 Jan 1, 2020 6:19 pm

unless you have immediate need for WN TF and fly often, i dont understand the people rushing to buy <$100 fares in the new year. amex may close the loophole soon and thats a valid concern, but that also means your WN TF will expire at the end of 2020. and judging from all these last minute posters, there are plenty here who already have TF from only a few days/weeks ago which would also expire at the end of 2020. so now you have double the amount to spend with PAX restrictions. im gonna take my chances and wait. i hate expiring credits.


Originally Posted by sailorman2439 (Post 31897703)
I've tried searching, but are there any DP's for whether you get to keep the credit if you request a refund?

what are you asking? book a flight then cancel within 24hrs to get the amex credit AND the refund back to the amex CC like a few prior DP were suggesting? the bottom line is that amex RAT dont play games. that should have been clear the past few months.

Sandeep1 Jan 1, 2020 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by GundamWing01 (Post 31897885)
unless you have immediate need for WN TF and fly often, i dont understand the people rushing to buy <$100 fares in the new year. amex may close the loophole soon and thats a valid concern, but that also means your WN TF will expire at the end of 2020. and judging from all these last minute posters, there are plenty here who already have TF from only a few days/weeks ago which would also expire at the end of 2020. so now you have double the amount to spend with PAX restrictions. im gonna take my chances and wait. i hate expiring credits.

AF refunds, people trying to double/triple dip. Need to get it done fairly soon.

Beachchaser Jan 1, 2020 6:39 pm


Originally Posted by GundamWing01 (Post 31897885)
unless you have immediate need for WN TF and fly often, i dont understand the people rushing to buy <$100 fares in the new year. amex may close the loophole soon and thats a valid concern, but that also means your WN TF will expire at the end of 2020. and judging from all these last minute posters, there are plenty here who already have TF from only a few days/weeks ago which would also expire at the end of 2020. so now you have double the amount to spend with PAX restrictions. im gonna take my chances and wait. i hate expiring credits.



what are you asking? book a flight then cancel within 24hrs to get the amex credit AND the refund back to the amex CC like a few prior DP were suggesting? the bottom line is that amex RAT dont play games. that should have been clear the past few months.

Amex rat seems pretty calm compared to aa these days, that being said is it really worth getting shutdown/ blacklisted on behavior that borders on fraud? I am with you in taking the travel funds or early bird and appreciating the remaining loophole of travel funds.

Mirage Jan 1, 2020 8:35 pm

App SWA
 

Originally Posted by cdeneo (Post 31892177)
Does it matter if flight purchase less than $100 made on website or the southwest app? Guidance on this would be appreciated as I have purchased a flight using the southwest app and only realized now to check if it matters or not... ?

I did mine on the SWA iPhone app. No issues. Also did it on SWA website using Explorer. No issues.

sleepy3192 Jan 1, 2020 11:00 pm


Originally Posted by sleepy3192 (Post 31894938)
12/29: Bought 4 one way tickets under $100
12/30: Transactions posted
12/31: Under Benefits section, it says "You have used all of your $250 Airline Fee Credit for this year.It will renew again starting Jan 2020"

Waiting for credits to actually post. Which I'm assuming will be the next business day.. Was able to use the remaining credits for 2019 and will get a new set of credits for 2020...

Credits posted on 12/31

saro Jan 2, 2020 8:56 am

So when do I cancel tickets? Once I get the credit or I can do it once 24 hours are done?

FrugalFA Jan 2, 2020 9:02 am


Originally Posted by sleepy3192 (Post 31898645)
Credits posted on 12/31

I purchased on 12/30, posted on . Had $250 to burn..so I did 3 $80 tix.
Posted on 1/1...no credit yet. :/

saro Jan 2, 2020 9:03 am


Originally Posted by Mirage (Post 31898337)
I did mine on the SWA iPhone app. No issues. Also did it on SWA website using Explorer. No issues.

So when did you cancel the ticket? Is it within the 24 h period, after 24 h or once the credit posted?

cliff1127 Jan 2, 2020 9:21 am

Any DPs of this not working for flights <$100? Looks like a few folks are still waiting, but I haven't seen any DPs of someone not getting reimbursed at all?

I'm planning to purchase a few <$100 SW flights now for my 2020 credit.

mia Jan 2, 2020 9:37 am


Originally Posted by cliff1127 (Post 31900093)
....I haven't seen any DPs of someone not getting reimbursed at all?.

We would not know until 4+ weeks after the transaction, because that's the amount of time stipulated in the benefit terms.

danhouston Jan 2, 2020 10:39 am


Originally Posted by cliff1127 (Post 31900093)
Any DPs of this not working for flights <$100? Looks like a few folks are still waiting, but I haven't seen any DPs of someone not getting reimbursed at all?

on the contrary, some ppl reported that cr was posted within few days after charges posted before or by 12/31 for 2019; for 2020, still too new, charges r still pending

soldja Jan 2, 2020 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by GundamWing01 (Post 31897885)
unless you have immediate need for WN TF and fly often, i dont understand the people rushing to buy <$100 fares in the new year. amex may close the loophole soon and thats a valid concern, but that also means your WN TF will expire at the end of 2020. and judging from all these last minute posters, there are plenty here who already have TF from only a few days/weeks ago which would also expire at the end of 2020. so now you have double the amount to spend with PAX restrictions. im gonna take my chances and wait. i hate expiring credits.

Some of us will have zero problem using the credit before expiration. I hear what you're saying, but it's only a concern if you don't fly SW very often.

Sandeep1 Jan 2, 2020 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by saro (Post 31899987)
So when do I cancel tickets? Once I get the credit or I can do it once 24 hours are done?

You can cancel 1 second after booking the flight. Just make sure to select "hold for future use" for the reimbursement method.

saro Jan 2, 2020 2:52 pm


Originally Posted by Sandeep1 (Post 31901314)
You can cancel 1 second after booking the flight. Just make sure to select "hold for future use" for the reimbursement method.

Many thanks!

HIFlya Jan 2, 2020 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by Sandeep1 (Post 31885475)
Not sure if this will be useful for anyone but if you have multiple travel funds under $100, you can actually then use them to purchase a more expensive fare and that way you will only have to keep track one of confirmation number rather than multiple ones.

Example:
Travel Funds #1 : $99
Travel Funds #2 : $99
Travel Funds #3 : $99

Purchase a $297 ticket and use the above funds to do it. It won't have any impact on your expiration date but might be a little easier to keep track of for some.

I had read somewhere that by using the funds to purchase a ticket and you cancel again, your new funds will be the date of your latest purchase. I am not sure if I read the post/blog correctly, or maybe that loophole was closed. I heard that SW was allowing you one cancellation to get this informal extension on your credit.

Sandeep1 Jan 2, 2020 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by HIFlya (Post 31901448)
I had read somewhere that by using the funds to purchase a ticket and you cancel again, your new funds will be the date of your latest purchase. I am not sure if I read the post/blog correctly, or maybe that loophole was closed. I heard that SW was allowing you one cancellation to get this informal extension on your credit.

I don't think so. From what I can tell, when you co-mingle travel funds, the funds with the earliest expiration are the ones that stick on the new reservation.

arkistan Jan 2, 2020 3:53 pm

I want to give a friend my flight credit. If the friend buys a <$100 SW ticket with my AMEX card, will I get the credit?

Sloflyer032 Jan 2, 2020 3:58 pm


Originally Posted by arkistan (Post 31901573)
I want to give a friend my flight credit. If the friend buys a <$100 SW ticket with my AMEX card, will I get the credit?

Yes,my wife has our companion pass and I have the AMEX account so I buy the tickets under her name with my AMEX card and they get refunded. Then they are worth double essentially.

HIFlya Jan 2, 2020 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by Sandeep1 (Post 31897902)
AF refunds, people trying to double/triple dip. Need to get it done fairly soon.

I remember hearing about triple dipping...is it getting the card in December 2018, using the credits in December 2018, then using the 2019 credits, AF posts 2020 so using the credit early 2020 and then cancelling before AF is due?

MaxVO Jan 2, 2020 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by GundamWing01 (Post 31897885)
... i hate expiring credits.

Credits expire a year after tix are cancelled, right? So without impending travel plans, it would make sense to buy those disposable tix as far into the future as possible, and not cancel them until credit is needed or their date comes close.

gtran26 Jan 2, 2020 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by MaxVO (Post 31901644)
Credits expire a year after tix are cancelled, right? So without impending travel plans, it would make sense to buy those disposable tix as far into the future as possible, and not cancel them until credit is needed or their date comes close.

I think it is by purchase date, that's what I see when I look at my travel funds.

Sandeep1 Jan 2, 2020 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by HIFlya (Post 31901633)
I remember hearing about triple dipping...is it getting the card in December 2018, using the credits in December 2018, then using the 2019 credits, AF posts 2020 so using the credit early 2020 and then cancelling before AF is due?

Exactly. That is the triple dip. You've also got people who just get the card in December, get credits, then get them early again in January, and close the card to get an AF refund.

So, people who are in a rush to get their credits early in the year typically fall into one of the above 2 categories.

HIFlya Jan 2, 2020 4:53 pm


Originally Posted by Sandeep1 (Post 31901683)
Exactly. That is the triple dip. You've also got people who just get the card in December, get credits, then get them early again in January, and close the card to get an AF refund.

So, people who are in a rush to get their credits early in the year typically fall into one of the above 2 categories.

If I had known I was going to tear my Achilles in January back in December, I might have tried the triple-dip. But man, I am normally so slow moving on these types of things, I probably would have ended up only single dipping..

maulah Jan 2, 2020 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by Sandeep1 (Post 31901683)
Exactly. That is the triple dip. You've also got people who just get the card in December, get credits, then get them early again in January, and close the card to get an AF refund.

So, people who are in a rush to get their credits early in the year typically fall into one of the above 2 categories.

Too late for me now. I can assure you next year this loophole will be closed

Sandeep1 Jan 2, 2020 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by maulah (Post 31902272)
Too late for me now. I can assure you next year this loophole will be closed

There will probably be a ton of Plat/Aspire closures if that is the case.

Andrea Chen Jan 2, 2020 9:08 pm

i see the $96 but it's not "anytime". I thought it has to be the "anytime" fare in order to cancel the ticket and trigger the travel credit?

SkymilesSucks Jan 2, 2020 9:32 pm

if I’m understanding the posts above correctly, instead of lowering the price with gift card. alternatively, I can buy >$99 ticket now, receive Amex credit, cancel it and apply those fund for my $104 ticket and actually only pay $5? Thanks in advance

sleepy3192 Jan 2, 2020 9:33 pm

man you guys booking and then cancelling the flight to get the credit directly is really pushing it. you guys are putting yourself at risk to get your accounts closed by amex and also making ones that actually go on these flights lose a way to redeem the credits.


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