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https://www.americanexpress.com/ca/e...platinum-card/
- Metal card
- 3 MR/$ on dining, 2 MR on travel & 1 MR on everything else
- Annual fee $699
- Additional Cards $175 annually for Platinum Cards, $50 annually for Gold Cards
Canadian personal Platinum card refresh (February 2019)
#46
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC *E
Posts: 532
Time to cancel Platinum I think
I've been with Amex for over 40 years, and the majority of that with the Canadian Plat, but this may require a rethink. Essentially have taken away 0.25 points/dollar on most purchases while increasing on some and giving us a metal card (eventually - my card is good until 2022). Fairmont was the best benefit of the Plat from my point of view and now that's gone, so it's hard to justify the expense. I've been super loyal to Amex for a long time but there are now many other options.
#48
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Package arrived. Complete waste of paper and materials. Someone in marketing thought that part of my annual fee should be spent on wrapping, a leaflet and the underwhelming "gift" of a box of cards. All other purchases will now only earn 1 point per dollar because someone has to pay for the marketing materials, lol
All of this could have been announced in a nice email and then send out the metal card.
All of this could have been announced in a nice email and then send out the metal card.
#49
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: AC, AS, BA Silver/OW Sapphire, DL, SQ/*A Silver, Bonvoy Gold, HH Gold
Posts: 161
Finally got the "refresh", and not very sure how does it help the plat to be an attractive travel card.
The 2x on travel merely mirrors the Gold card, and it is truly the one category that could have been the edge of the refreshed plat. TBH even a 2.5x would have tilted the decision whether to switch to plat yet this is by far the most disappointing element of the "refresh".
Moreover, the travel insurance on the card amounts to 15days, which is nowadays an average coverage of mid-tier cards. The competition has a 21-31 days range, which a "premium' travel card would have to match. This is another core element of a great travel card.
The FX item is the last core element to look it in a travel card: I was thinking Amex could have at least reduce it, if not fully doing away with it. A 1-1.25% or so FX rate would have made the refreshed card a much more attractive option.
If anything, I can hardly see the added value of the "refresh", unless we are a heavy dine out person that is...The metal card is solely a boon, and in real life means nothing, hardly anyone would see it, and if someone does, it wont change anything! This is still "an airport lounge card" yet with more cards offering some type of lounge access, I can hardly see the added value of the refresh. Will stick to the Gold, and look forward to another "refresh"...
The 2x on travel merely mirrors the Gold card, and it is truly the one category that could have been the edge of the refreshed plat. TBH even a 2.5x would have tilted the decision whether to switch to plat yet this is by far the most disappointing element of the "refresh".
Moreover, the travel insurance on the card amounts to 15days, which is nowadays an average coverage of mid-tier cards. The competition has a 21-31 days range, which a "premium' travel card would have to match. This is another core element of a great travel card.
The FX item is the last core element to look it in a travel card: I was thinking Amex could have at least reduce it, if not fully doing away with it. A 1-1.25% or so FX rate would have made the refreshed card a much more attractive option.
If anything, I can hardly see the added value of the "refresh", unless we are a heavy dine out person that is...The metal card is solely a boon, and in real life means nothing, hardly anyone would see it, and if someone does, it wont change anything! This is still "an airport lounge card" yet with more cards offering some type of lounge access, I can hardly see the added value of the refresh. Will stick to the Gold, and look forward to another "refresh"...
Last edited by Doors Closing; Feb 14, 2019 at 6:57 pm Reason: corrections
#50
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
The CIBC Aerogold Visa Infinite Privilege provides $2,500 up to $10,000 prior to departure cancellation protection. I can have my whole family covered. Amex Plat only covers $1,500 up to $3,000.
This is supposed to be a premium card!
Also the 3X MR dining is in Canada only.
Overall, I am very disappointed with the "refresh".
This is supposed to be a premium card!
Also the 3X MR dining is in Canada only.
Overall, I am very disappointed with the "refresh".
#52
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ontario, Canada
Programs: Amex Plat, Fairmont Plat
Posts: 16
#53
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: Amex Plat, National EE, Hertz 5*, SPG Gold, Fairmont Plat, HH Gold
Posts: 119
The CIBC Aerogold Visa Infinite Privilege provides $2,500 up to $10,000 prior to departure cancellation protection. I can have my whole family covered. Amex Plat only covers $1,500 up to $3,000.
This is supposed to be a premium card!
Also the 3X MR dining is in Canada only.
Overall, I am very disappointed with the "refresh".
This is supposed to be a premium card!
Also the 3X MR dining is in Canada only.
Overall, I am very disappointed with the "refresh".
#54
Join Date: Oct 2002
Programs: United Premier 1K
Posts: 1,230
They are only saying it is “in Canada” since they can not guarantee that restaurants outside of Canada will be coded properly as restaurants. The Colbalt card has the same wording, but the vast majority of my out-of-Canada restaurant charges have had the bonus points posted correctly. (Only ones that haven’t are ones that are on the restaurant floors of Japanese department stores, and some Starbucks within tourist attractions)
Last edited by Toronto1970; Feb 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm
#55
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: YYZ
Programs: AA LT Plat, AC 25K, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,137
Seems to be $2500/$5000: https://www.americanexpress.com/ca/e...insurance.html
#56
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
Seems to be $2500/$5000: https://www.americanexpress.com/ca/e...insurance.html
In any case, the total coverage is still half of that on another card.
#57
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: YYJ
Posts: 111
They are only saying it is “in Canada” since they can not guarantee that restaurants outside of Canada will be coded properly as restaurants. The Colbalt card has the same wording, but the vast majority of my out-of-Canada restaurant charges have had the bonus points posted correctly. (Only ones that haven’t are ones that are on the restaurant floors of Japanese department stores, and some Starbucks within tourist attractions)
#58
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 415
The more I think about this, the more upset it makes me. I've been with Amex since 2000, and most of it with a Platinum Card. Currently, I have both the Platinum Card and the Gold Card. Travel, fuel and groceries went on the Gold card, while most everything else went on the Platinum. Now, the Platinum has been devalued from 1.25 to 1 point per $, meaning that there is no real advantage in earning over the Gold Card. The exception is restaurants. But does that make up forthe loss of 1.25 points elsewhere, plus the loss of the Fairmont benefit, plus all the other consecutive losses of benefits and priviliges we have taken over the years?
They can't even be bothered to give us a free supplementary card like every other market gets; and even the Gold Card gets. So I currently pay $699(-$200)+$175+$150 for my wife and I to each have a Platinum Card and a Gold Card. But now really there is hardly a difference between the Gold and Platinum, and hardly a difference between Gold and Cobalt. I'm now looking at getting rid of both Platinum and Gold and instead getting a Cobalt ($120+$0) plus an HSBC World Elite Mastercard ($149(-$100)+$50) that has NO FX FEES as a replacement strategy. And seriously even considering not even adding the Cobalt, and just going all-in with HSBC.
But its a metal card, so... that makes it all ok.
I love Amex. I'm in many ways an Amex loyalist; but the Platinum Card is no longer competitive. The only place where Amex still holds the lead is lounge access, but I pay to sit up front so I get lounge access without Amex anyway - but even then, most lounges these days are so overcrowded I give them a miss.
They can't even be bothered to give us a free supplementary card like every other market gets; and even the Gold Card gets. So I currently pay $699(-$200)+$175+$150 for my wife and I to each have a Platinum Card and a Gold Card. But now really there is hardly a difference between the Gold and Platinum, and hardly a difference between Gold and Cobalt. I'm now looking at getting rid of both Platinum and Gold and instead getting a Cobalt ($120+$0) plus an HSBC World Elite Mastercard ($149(-$100)+$50) that has NO FX FEES as a replacement strategy. And seriously even considering not even adding the Cobalt, and just going all-in with HSBC.
But its a metal card, so... that makes it all ok.
I love Amex. I'm in many ways an Amex loyalist; but the Platinum Card is no longer competitive. The only place where Amex still holds the lead is lounge access, but I pay to sit up front so I get lounge access without Amex anyway - but even then, most lounges these days are so overcrowded I give them a miss.
#59
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,956
If the restaurant uses the hotel's merchant account you dined at a hotel, not at a restaurant. All card issuers who offer category bonuses use the merchant account category to classify expenses.
There are no free supplementary Platinum cards in the USA market, but the choice isn't between American Express (Canada) and American Express (Elsewhere), nor between American Express (2019) versus American Express (2018), it's American Express versus HSBC or other issuers.
There are no free supplementary Platinum cards in the USA market, but the choice isn't between American Express (Canada) and American Express (Elsewhere), nor between American Express (2019) versus American Express (2018), it's American Express versus HSBC or other issuers.
#60
formerly BackSlash3
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: YYZ Realistically, YKZ Aspirationally
Programs: AC P25, Marriott Gold, IHG Diamond AMB
Posts: 452
If the restaurant uses the hotel's merchant account you dined at a hotel, not at a restaurant. All card issuers who offer category bonuses use the merchant account category to classify expenses.
There are no free supplementary Platinum cards in the USA market, but the choice isn't between American Express (Canada) and American Express (Elsewhere), nor between American Express (2019) versus American Express (2018), it's American Express versus HSBC or other issuers.
There are no free supplementary Platinum cards in the USA market, but the choice isn't between American Express (Canada) and American Express (Elsewhere), nor between American Express (2019) versus American Express (2018), it's American Express versus HSBC or other issuers.
But it you’re right about it being a disingenuous choice. Converting CAD to USD to pay a bill would wipe out nearly any gains due to better earning on a US card.