Amex USA terms now penalize:abuse,misuse,gaming;1st yr downgrade/close;leaked offers.
Oct 20, 2018, 10:54 am
#137
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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One of those (two or more) messages has nothing to do with Marriott/SPG history, and has to with Amex history in general. So that's why you have to specify which message you got.
Thanks.
Oct 20, 2018, 9:37 pm
#138
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,943
Jan-Mar 2017 I got an upgrade offer for gold to plat biz. Also got a new app bonus for plat biz (must’ve been before upgrade). I canceled both after the next AF hit a year later. Next Amex I applied for was Blue Plus Biz last spring and was instantly approved. I also have a DL personal and an SPG biz and an AU plat. I’d like to apply for the new version of the personal gold and intend to keep it long term. But now I am paranoid about Amex. I don’t MS or churn but if they are closing accounts for being canceled at the one year mark that does give me pause.
Oct 21, 2018, 4:38 am
#139
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,477
Oct 21, 2018, 4:39 am
#140
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
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Nov 28, 2018, 8:01 am
#141
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, UA Silver, Mobile Passport Unobtanium
Posts: 6,193
This person detailed that meeting the MSR on both cards was mostly due to MS at giftcardmall.com so perhaps not surprising (though bonus clawbacks after a year is eye opening.) Forewarned is forearmed.
Nov 28, 2018, 10:07 pm
#142
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: WN A-list., Marriott Plat, National EX, UA Silver
Posts: 289
Speaking of which.....new report on another forum today of someone who cancelled their AMEX Green card and their AMEX BGR after the first anniversary fees hit; both bonuses were "clawed back."
This person detailed that meeting the MSR on both cards was mostly due to MS at giftcardmall.com so perhaps not surprising (though bonus clawbacks after a year is eye opening.) Forewarned is forearmed.
This person detailed that meeting the MSR on both cards was mostly due to MS at giftcardmall.com so perhaps not surprising (though bonus clawbacks after a year is eye opening.) Forewarned is forearmed.
Nov 29, 2018, 6:13 am
#143
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 377
Scary stuff. I have the BGR with 50k bonus and first year waived annual fee. I put a few hundred in monthly expenses on it but mainly got it for sign up bonus. No MS and have only bought a few GC's a gas stations for 3x points. If I cancel at end of first year do you think Amex could claw back points or black list me? This is my first Amex card and only Amex card so I don't want to burn any bridges with them.
Nov 29, 2018, 9:00 am
#144
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, UA Silver, Mobile Passport Unobtanium
Posts: 6,193
Scary stuff. I have the BGR with 50k bonus and first year waived annual fee. I put a few hundred in monthly expenses on it but mainly got it for sign up bonus. No MS and have only bought a few GC's a gas stations for 3x points. If I cancel at end of first year do you think Amex could claw back points or black list me? This is my first Amex card and only Amex card so I don't want to burn any bridges with them.
The person who chronicled their bonus clawbacks was pretty clear that he thought the amount of MS, specifically at GCM, was the reason. Additionally, that person had called into retention in an attempt to secure further offers on each card, prior to closing them. (So human eyes on the account.)
The general consensus on the other forum is that the MS is what caused the clawbacks.
Nov 29, 2018, 2:36 pm
#145
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 95
Sorry if this question in the wrong thread. I have recently got Hilton Aspire using Plat self-referral (15K points posted). Plan to get Ascend now. Any risk of doing self-referral again? Anyone has done it more than twice without the consequences?
Nov 29, 2018, 4:09 pm
#146
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 512
you can refer yourself? I thought that didn't work since you have to refer the same product...
Nov 29, 2018, 6:01 pm
#147
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Dec 13, 2018, 8:12 am
#148
Join Date: Nov 2007
Programs: several:)
Posts: 34
welcome bonus taken
I had an Amex Business Gold for <1yr (opened Blue Business Plus since then) - and now Amex wants to take my welcome bonus away because I had it for less than a year. Would reinstating the card and asking them to reinstate the MR points get me the welcome bonus back?
Dec 13, 2018, 8:59 am
#149
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 248
That doesn't make any sense they would want the sign up bonus back because you didn't held the card for a year. I don't think there's anything in the T&C that states that. I've had closed an Amex MR card w/in 6 months and sign up bonus was in tack. Were any of your spending to meet the spend requirements suspicious?
Dec 13, 2018, 9:38 am
#150
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, UA Silver, Mobile Passport Unobtanium
Posts: 6,193
That doesn't make any sense they would want the sign up bonus back because you didn't held the card for a year. I don't think there's anything in the T&C that states that. I've had closed an Amex MR card w/in 6 months and sign up bonus was in tack. Were any of your spending to meet the spend requirements suspicious?