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Old Jan 17, 2015, 11:52 am
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Q. Where can I find a list of the airline and hotel transfer partners?

Partner airline and hotel programs, transfer ratios, and rules vary by the country where your American Express card is issued:

Australia: Airlines & Hotels

Canada: Airlines & Hotels

Germany: Airlines & Hotels

International Dollar & Euro Cards: Airlines, Hotels

New Zealand: Airlines & Hotels

UK: Airlines, Hotels

USA: Airlines & Hotels Transfer ratios explained below.


Q. What are the transfer ratios to USA airline and hotel partners?

For most frequent customer programs, 1,000 Membership Rewards points will equal 1,000 miles, points or credits and must be transferred in 1,000-point increments unless otherwise noted.

In the USA version of Membership Rewards the exceptions are:
El AL Israel Airlines: 1,000 points = 20 Matmid points
Hilton®: 1,000 points = 2,000 Honors points (as of 1/11/2018)
JetBlue Airways: 250 points = 200 JetBlue TrueBlue® points
(The Canadian transfer ratios are listed directly on the Canadian site.)


Q: After I transfer, when will my miles expire at that airline/hotel program? Is there anything I can do to avoid expiration there?

The Miles/Points that Do and Don't Expire wiki lists all of the Amex USA airline/hotel transfer partners and their respective expiration policies.


Q. How long does it typically take to compete a transfer?

MR USA airline and hotel partner transfer times.


Q. How can I use Membership Rewards points to travel on American Airlines, United Airlines, Alaska Airlines or other carriers which are not transfer partners?

Membership Rewards (USA) points can be transferred to three or more frequent flyer programs in each of the international alliances. Any program can arrange award travel on flights operated by all members of the same alliance. Points cannot be transferred from one frequent flyer program to another, instead you redeem for a partner award. The number of miles required is determined by the program through which you redeem, not by the airline operating the flights. Programs in the same alliance will require different amounts of miles, and different co-payments, for the same flights. Do not transfer until you understand the full cost of the flights you need. Do not transfer until you have confirmed availability for your specific dates and route.

To travel on American Airlines or any other OneWorld carrier redeem through:
  • Asia Miles (Cathay Pacific)
  • British Airways
  • Iberia Airlines
  • Qantas Airways

American also has partnership outside OneWorld with:
  • Etihad


To travel on Delta Air Lines or any other SkyTeam carrier redeem through:
  • Delta Air Lines (DL permits one-way awards as of 01 JAN 2015, however trips originating in Europe carry additional surcharges; Delta also imposes surcharges on trips using some partner airlines such as China Eastern or China Southern, but notably not on trips involving its European partners (as long as the trip originates outside Europe) or Virgin Australia.)
  • AeroMexico
  • Alitalia
  • FlyingBlue (Air France, KLM, Air Europa, Kenya Airways, Aircalin and Tarom.)

To travel on United Airlines or any other Star Alliance carrier redeem through:
  • Aeroplan (Air Canada) No fuel surcharge on flights operated by UA and many other airlines. Read current list HERE. See also transatlantic strategy discussion HERE. Read about changes to redemption charts in December 2015 HERE.
  • All Nippon Airways. Read about ANA fuel surcharges HERE. Read about changes to partner redemption charts in April 2015 HERE.
  • Avianca Airlines
  • Singapore Airlines. Read HERE
    Read about Singapore Airlines' reciprocal mile conversion arrangement with Virgin Australia HERE.

To travel on Alaska Airlines redeem through:


Q. Rather than transferring now, can I preserve my Membership Rewards USA points balance without paying any annual fee?

Apply for an American Express Everyday card, and link it to the same Membership Rewards account. You may then close the other cards.
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Old Oct 29, 2019, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by guv1976
Does your BAEC account have a U.S. address on it?
yep
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Old Oct 29, 2019, 3:27 pm
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There seems to be many reports out there of transfers to BA being rejected and BA completely disappearing from Amex site for some time. Looks like a tech issue that is being worked on.
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Old Nov 3, 2019, 9:08 am
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I just moved 190K from AMEX MR to ANA in less than 43 hours including the WE. Pretty impressive! Just booked on ANA as well.
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Old Nov 9, 2019, 1:12 pm
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What are good options to fly to the middle east using Amex MRs in J or F?
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Old Nov 9, 2019, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Red259
What are good options to fly to the middle east using Amex MRs in J or F?
Flying Blue (Air France and KLM)
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Old Nov 10, 2019, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Red259
What are good options to fly to the middle east using Amex MRs in J or F?
Originally Posted by friedablass
Flying Blue (Air France and KLM)
But be careful, they add varying, often sizable, co-pays to such redemptions.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 10:35 am
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Flying Blue also seems not to like large transfers into accounts that have not previously earned miles.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
Flying Blue also seems not to like large transfers into accounts that have not previously earned miles.
I never had an issue with that. I never earned any miles flying with them or from cc or anything else and I've successfully transferred from Amex and booked awards multiple times.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
Flying Blue also seems not to like large transfers into accounts that have not previously earned miles.
Can you define what "large" means in your post? I did 200k into an account that never earned miles and did not have a problem with AMEX MR transfer
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
But be careful, they add varying, often sizable, co-pays to such redemptions.
I haven't found the taxes and surcharges to be so terrible, somewhere around $260. Last summer I paid that much plus 69k miles. For me it was a pretty good deal for J to Middle East.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
Flying Blue also seems not to like large transfers into accounts that have not previously earned miles.
See this thread -and- the threads linked within it:

MR (USA) to Flying Blue (AF/KL) 25% bonus to April 29, 2019

It does not happen to everyone.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
See this thread -and- the threads linked within it:

MR (USA) to Flying Blue (AF/KL) 25% bonus to April 29, 2019

It does not happen to everyone.
Assuming you meant to respond to me - and will do
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by friedablass
I haven't found the taxes and surcharges to be so terrible, somewhere around $260. Last summer I paid that much plus 69k miles. For me it was a pretty good deal for J to Middle East.
But it's not always like that.

I was searching some west coast US->AMM (Amman, Jordan) flights earlier this year, and for the first couple months it was just $350ish, and but after that it went up to over $800 (always checking for the same travel date), each time on the exact same route with the exact same 85000 miles one-way for the miles cost.

So while I thought the $350ish for one-way was reasonable, and I thought the 85k one-way was reasonable, but I found the over $800 for one-way a lot less reasonable.
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Old Nov 12, 2019, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
But it's not always like that.

I was searching some west coast US->AMM (Amman, Jordan) flights earlier this year, and for the first couple months it was just $350ish, and but after that it went up to over $800 (always checking for the same travel date), each time on the exact same route with the exact same 85000 miles one-way for the miles cost.

So while I thought the $350ish for one-way was reasonable, and I thought the 85k one-way was reasonable, but I found the over $800 for one-way a lot less reasonable.
Yes, $800+ is steep. Why did it jump up that high?
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Old Nov 12, 2019, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by lax01
Assuming you meant to respond to me....
Not specifically, I wanted to supplement my previous post with a link to the source of my information.
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