Jan 17, 2015, 11:17 am
Last edit by: JJonahJ
This thread is a continuation of discussion which began HERE in 2011. It was very active in 2014, read HERE.
Referrals and self-referrals are an important part of churning Canadian-issued American Express cards. It is appropriate to discuss how the referral process works in this thread. However, please do not offer or request referrals here.
Use only this thread, and do read the Wikipost carefully before posting:
Referral Offers (post only in this thread, no referral links, read Wiki post first).
JerryHung: I figure I'll include all CURRENT AMEX Canada offers here (no referral links) for anyone curious about what the bonus and fees are
This is not an all-inclusive list, only the "good" offers, so feel free to add new offers
AMEX Platinum Rewards - $699/year, 60K MR (via referral) after $1000 spending in 3 months vs. 50K non-referral
AMEX Gold Rewards - $150/year, FYF, 25K MR after $500 spending + $50 cashback from GCR
(as of Jan 11, 2016 Gold card will no longer earn referral points.)
AMEX Air Miles Platinum - $65/year, FYF, 2000 Air Miles after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback
AMEX SPG - $120/year, 20K SPG after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback
New as of 2014/10/09
AMEX Business Gold Rewards - $250/year, FYF, 30K MR after $5000 spending (or 40K via referral)
AMEX Business Platinum Rewards - $399/year, 40K MR after $5000 spending (or 50K via referral)
AMEX Aeroplan Plus Platinum - $499/year, 50K Aeroplans after $1000 spending in 3 months (or 51K via referral). Normally 40K/41K, extra 10K promo running till Mar 31, 2016
Referrals and self-referrals are an important part of churning Canadian-issued American Express cards. It is appropriate to discuss how the referral process works in this thread. However, please do not offer or request referrals here.
Use only this thread, and do read the Wikipost carefully before posting:
Referral Offers (post only in this thread, no referral links, read Wiki post first).
JerryHung: I figure I'll include all CURRENT AMEX Canada offers here (no referral links) for anyone curious about what the bonus and fees are
This is not an all-inclusive list, only the "good" offers, so feel free to add new offers
AMEX Platinum Rewards - $699/year, 60K MR (via referral) after $1000 spending in 3 months vs. 50K non-referral
AMEX Gold Rewards - $150/year, FYF, 25K MR after $500 spending + $50 cashback from GCR
(as of Jan 11, 2016 Gold card will no longer earn referral points.)
AMEX Air Miles Platinum - $65/year, FYF, 2000 Air Miles after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback
AMEX SPG - $120/year, 20K SPG after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback
New as of 2014/10/09
AMEX Business Gold Rewards - $250/year, FYF, 30K MR after $5000 spending (or 40K via referral)
AMEX Business Platinum Rewards - $399/year, 40K MR after $5000 spending (or 50K via referral)
AMEX Aeroplan Plus Platinum - $499/year, 50K Aeroplans after $1000 spending in 3 months (or 51K via referral). Normally 40K/41K, extra 10K promo running till Mar 31, 2016
Churning Amex in Canada (2015)
Feb 17, 2015, 6:00 am
#151
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: 25 million points to burn!
Posts: 1,522
"420K MR = 210K SPG. Transfer to Alaska Airlines gets 260K Mileage Plan points."
I am pretty new at this and may also fly Alaska Air as well. Wouldn't you be better off to convert 420k MR to 420k BA avios since you can use avios to book a reward flight on Alaska Air? I was looking to book YVR to LAX last month and if I remember correctly, it would have cost me 15k avios or the same or higher number of Alaska Air mileage plan pts.
I am pretty new at this and may also fly Alaska Air as well. Wouldn't you be better off to convert 420k MR to 420k BA avios since you can use avios to book a reward flight on Alaska Air? I was looking to book YVR to LAX last month and if I remember correctly, it would have cost me 15k avios or the same or higher number of Alaska Air mileage plan pts.
You could transfer SPG to AA and fly AUH-LHR in Etihad Apartments. That's the new best First class product out there, also with a shower. 40,000 AA miles for 7-8 hours of pretty great looking flying! I've got that flight coming up in May...
Feb 17, 2015, 6:34 am
#152
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,083
They didn't show up as expected... messaged them... will prob get the same answer about 8-10 weeks.
Feb 17, 2015, 8:40 am
#153
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: SPG Gold, Aeroplan, Hilton Honors, Le Club Accor Platinum
Posts: 268
In the past year, I've had three issues of "not enough points".
In all three cases, I emailed and it turned out fine.
For the biz gold I got the "8-10 weeks" message. Not sure if I replied back saying that I thought the response was inadequate. Whatever the case, my points showed up within a two week period of sending my first message.
For the personal gold I did a self-referral and only got 15k points. I actually called in for that one and the guy seemed confused (i.e. suspicious). about my method of getting the card. Not wanting to rock the boat, I said bye and figured that would be the end of it. A couple weeks later, no email, and another 10k points showed up in my account.
Try again?
Referral bonuses show up no problem, as an aside.
In all three cases, I emailed and it turned out fine.
For the biz gold I got the "8-10 weeks" message. Not sure if I replied back saying that I thought the response was inadequate. Whatever the case, my points showed up within a two week period of sending my first message.
For the personal gold I did a self-referral and only got 15k points. I actually called in for that one and the guy seemed confused (i.e. suspicious). about my method of getting the card. Not wanting to rock the boat, I said bye and figured that would be the end of it. A couple weeks later, no email, and another 10k points showed up in my account.
Try again?
Referral bonuses show up no problem, as an aside.
Never had any issues with referrals. I once received MR points before for referring an Aeroplan card. It was my fault as I choose the wrong card, but I was credited the referral bonus.
Feb 17, 2015, 9:57 am
#154
Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 527
I'm sure my points will be credited. I'll wait the 10 weeks, then call after that if points not credited by then.
Never had any issues with referrals. I once received MR points before for referring an Aeroplan card. It was my fault as I choose the wrong card, but I was credited the referral bonus.
Never had any issues with referrals. I once received MR points before for referring an Aeroplan card. It was my fault as I choose the wrong card, but I was credited the referral bonus.
Feb 17, 2015, 11:19 am
#155
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold, Marriott
Posts: 1,839
I'm sure my points will be credited. I'll wait the 10 weeks, then call after that if points not credited by then.
Never had any issues with referrals. I once received MR points before for referring an Aeroplan card. It was my fault as I choose the wrong card, but I was credited the referral bonus.
Never had any issues with referrals. I once received MR points before for referring an Aeroplan card. It was my fault as I choose the wrong card, but I was credited the referral bonus.
Feb 18, 2015, 7:41 am
#156
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,083
They froze it and demanded payment to be made right away before unfreezing?... I think they froze it not for my protection but because they were worried that I opened 2 accounts and spent this much $ right away. I'm not sure that's a good thing...?? Although, honestly, I don't get what the point of telling me that, yes, I can put that much $ on the card right away and then freezing it anyways?
Last edited by DealAddict; Feb 18, 2015 at 7:47 am
Feb 18, 2015, 8:01 am
#157
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: SPG Gold, Aeroplan, Hilton Honors, Le Club Accor Platinum
Posts: 268
Feb 18, 2015, 8:04 am
#158
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: SPG Gold, Aeroplan, Hilton Honors, Le Club Accor Platinum
Posts: 268
Feb 18, 2015, 5:08 pm
#159
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,958
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Feb 18, 2015, 8:41 pm
#160
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: yow,yvr,yxx
Programs: aeroplan airmiles priorityclub choiceprivilege asiamiles spg bw
Posts: 317
Feb 18, 2015, 8:46 pm
#161
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: yow,yvr,yxx
Programs: aeroplan airmiles priorityclub choiceprivilege asiamiles spg bw
Posts: 317
I hope I will go smoother for me this time around.
I just got approved for the biz gold to replace my personal gold today.
Hoping to see the self-referral bonus tomorrow.
BTW, has amex fixed the self referral loophole?
Feb 18, 2015, 8:58 pm
#162
Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 527
Is Amex still having problem posting the signup bonus?
I hope I will go smoother for me this time around.
I just got approved for the biz gold to replace my personal gold today.
Hoping to see the self-referral bonus tomorrow.
BTW, has amex fixed the self referral loophole?
I hope I will go smoother for me this time around.
I just got approved for the biz gold to replace my personal gold today.
Hoping to see the self-referral bonus tomorrow.
BTW, has amex fixed the self referral loophole?
Feb 18, 2015, 9:15 pm
#163
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: 25 million points to burn!
Posts: 1,522
What I'm seeing when I try to refer someone to the SPG Biz card is 10K for the person referring, but only 10K for the person getting the referral, not 20K, like for the personal SPG version. Is that right, or am I missing something? Somehow, I thought both personal and biz versions were giving 20K through the referral links.
The non-referral Biz apps are offering 20K to the applicant. Any way of getting a 20K Biz referral link?
The non-referral Biz apps are offering 20K to the applicant. Any way of getting a 20K Biz referral link?
Feb 18, 2015, 9:16 pm
#164
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NB, Canada
Programs: Fairmont, Amex MR, Marriott
Posts: 2,531
Feb 19, 2015, 7:44 am
#165
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
Is Amex still having problem posting the signup bonus?
I hope I will go smoother for me this time around.
I just got approved for the biz gold to replace my personal gold today.
Hoping to see the self-referral bonus tomorrow.
BTW, has amex fixed the self referral loophole?
I hope I will go smoother for me this time around.
I just got approved for the biz gold to replace my personal gold today.
Hoping to see the self-referral bonus tomorrow.
BTW, has amex fixed the self referral loophole?
I am a friend of myself, as of this month anyway