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If you wait list a BXP1 is it possible to un- waitlist it?
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Originally Posted by chicago747
(Post 30732853)
If you wait list a BXP1 is it possible to un- waitlist it?
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Is there a set date for when the previous month's Business Extraa points should post?
I have a few BA flights from early Jan that I'm waiting on before I can trigger an award, but still no sign of AA processing Jan points. Even when they do process the month of Jan, I'm expecting that I'll have to submit a claim since BA flights rarely ever post automatically for me (which then usually takes an extra few weeks on top). |
Originally Posted by platbrownguy
(Post 30731527)
if you learned anything from this thread, it should be "never waitlist a BXP1" -- even the good agents might not be able to push it through when C becomes available, whereas if you set an EF alert and simply call to apply the BXP1 once C is available, at least the good agents can clear it.
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Originally Posted by absoluy
(Post 30734567)
Is there a set date for when the previous month's Business Extraa points should post?
I have a few BA flights from early Jan that I'm waiting on before I can trigger an award, but still no sign of AA processing Jan points. Even when they do process the month of Jan, I'm expecting that I'll have to submit a claim since BA flights rarely ever post automatically for me (which then usually takes an extra few weeks on top). |
Sorry to belabor what may be obvious, but I'm not sure how electronic certs change things.
I have 850 points expiring at the end of the year. I rarely see BXP1 space confirmable in advance these days. If nothing shows up, can I request a BXP1 before year end, which will give me another year to use it? And if I cancel it afterwards, I will get points back in my account with the same expiration date as the BXP1 I'm cancelling? And if I cancel while I'm still Ex Plat (which I won't be after Feb 2020), then no fees are involved? I like using them for J to F LAX-JFK (which is usually confirmable) but I happen to be holding J saver awards for the dates I want to fly, and the difference between J&F isn't so big that it seems worthwhile for the two of us to cancel award tickets and use BXP1s to get into F when saver J awards on that route seem to have become extinct. So even though there is a great fare the day I want to fly ($559 one way in J), if I don't need the EQD because I won't requalify anyway, then it seems silly to give up the J saver seats. |
Originally Posted by platbrownguy
(Post 30731527)
if you learned anything from this thread, it should be "never waitlist a BXP1" -- even the good agents might not be able to push it through when C becomes available, whereas if you set an EF alert and simply call to apply the BXP1 once C is available, at least the good agents can clear it.
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Originally Posted by ryan182
(Post 30736585)
Thanks, confirms my concern...I'll set an EF alert and call in to un-waitlist/re-apply should I get an alert and know better for next time!! Frustrating part is I booked Mint for the outbound but figured I'd take AA for the return to grab some EQMs as the Mint ticket was $400ish and AA was >$700 for J but $180 for Y and with a completely empty J cabin figured I'd likely clear using BXP as I need EQMs more than EQDs this year. If I had a do-over I would have just booked Mint both directions :/
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy
(Post 30656127)
1. the $659 business fares are still out there, just primarily at odd times or weekends ($559 has been Saturdays only for a while), and always only on advance purchase. Google Flights is useful for finding them. Keep in mind that you can use same-day flight change to get on another flight in the same fare bucket (for business class) and then use a BXP1 to get to F. unfortunately the $859 fares are generally gone -- if the $659 is unavailable then it seems to be $1100-1300 or higher.
2. I'd say C might pop up more in the 36-48 hour range. EF is pretty reliable at this. 3. You mention calling both AA and Meeting Services. You'd only have to do this if you need to upfare to get out of B/N/O/Q/S (call AA to avoid the $200 change fee, which technically they could still charge you but in my and others' experience they don't) and then call Meeting Services to apply the BXP1. If your ticket is already in an eligible fare class (i.e. not B/N/O/Q/S) then you'd only need to make one phone call, to Meeting Services. Note their limited hours and there's nothing you can do if C goes away when they're closed. 4. I don't see the benefit to splitting the PNR in advance and I wouldn't necessarily waitlist the BXP1. People have all kinds of trouble (read upthread) getting Meeting Services to clear them. I'd rather wait until C is available and then call to apply the BXP1, and if only one is available, split it then. I have a question about the order of SDFC and BXP1. If I use a BXP1 to go from J-F, what is the impact on SDFC? Does it make it harder? If I'm willing to SDFC into J, will I get the BXP1 back? Or should I just hold off on the BXP1 until after SDFC (if still available). I have a $559 OW LAX-JFK in J, but it departs at 3:15 pm and I'd love to arrive in time for a night on the town. |
Originally Posted by beachfan
(Post 30758997)
Very helpful.
I have a question about the order of SDFC and BXP1. If I use a BXP1 to go from J-F, what is the impact on SDFC? Does it make it harder? If I'm willing to SDFC into J, will I get the BXP1 back? Or should I just hold off on the BXP1 until after SDFC (if still available). I have a $559 OW LAX-JFK in J, but it departs at 3:15 pm and I'd love to arrive in time for a night on the town. All that said, I don't think I've ever tried doing an A to A SDFC where I'm in A because of a BXP1. So maybe give it a shot and see what happens? |
One question I would ask is, if C space doesn't wind up opening up on your flight and your best bet is a gate upgrade, will the BXP1 still provide you higher priority than the free EXP upgrade? Or is your hope of effectively using the BXP1 dashed once the flight turns over to gate control?
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Originally Posted by bradfrancini
(Post 30774524)
One question I would ask is, if C space doesn't wind up opening up on your flight and your best bet is a gate upgrade, will the BXP1 still provide you higher priority than the free EXP upgrade? Or is your hope of effectively using the BXP1 dashed once the flight turns over to gate control?
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Anyone know how the gold status business extra award works in practice? Does it artificially bump up the miles/EQDs to the gold level (for purposes of higher level elite tiers)? In other words, would they be able to qualify for platinum from the gold threshold, or is it like starting from scratch to get to platinum?
The reason why I am asking is because the person for whom I am gifting the gold status may be flying enough to get gold by the end of the year anyway. |
Originally Posted by dc10forlife
(Post 30786371)
Anyone know how the gold status business extra award works in practice? Does it artificially bump up the miles/EQDs to the gold level (for purposes of higher level elite tiers)? In other words, would they be able to qualify for platinum from the gold threshold, or is it like starting from scratch to get to platinum?
Think of the gift as a facade over the organic earning process (although some might perceive their earned status as a facade too). |
For flights upgraded using BXP1 upgrade redemption I'm going to be cancelling the flight most likely. Once canceled will the certificate automatically go back into the count, though show as redeemed? Meaning I'd have 1 year from when first redeemed to use, correct?
I believe I can also redeposit it back into my points. As an EXP I believe that it is free then to do that. But, what I'm wondering if I do that will the points used for that BXP1 then expire one year from when I redeemed it? If so I guess the only point of doing it is if I had another use for it, not to use for BXP1. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Jonesdds
(Post 30786518)
I believe I can also redeposit it back into my points. As an EXP I believe that it is free then to do that.
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Originally Posted by NYC Flyer
(Post 30787259)
The Business Extra account is technically owned by your business (in whatever legal form it takes), not by any of the travelers or manager linked to the account. It's possible some courtesy might be extended to an EXP listed as the travel manager, but I suspect it's unlikely. I'd plan on just applying the certificate to an upgrade later on, or paying the Business Extra redeposit fee.
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Originally Posted by NYC Flyer
(Post 30787259)
The Business Extra account is technically owned by your business (in whatever legal form it takes), not by any of the travelers or manager linked to the account. It's possible some courtesy might be extended to an EXP listed as the travel manager, but I suspect it's unlikely. I'd plan on just applying the certificate to an upgrade later on, or paying the Business Extra redeposit fee.
Meeting Services is bad at booking awards and upgrades but they're pretty good about administering the program otherwise. |
Originally Posted by absoluy
(Post 30734567)
Is there a set date for when the previous month's Business Extraa points should post?
I have a few BA flights from early Jan that I'm waiting on before I can trigger an award, but still no sign of AA processing Jan points. Even when they do process the month of Jan, I'm expecting that I'll have to submit a claim since BA flights rarely ever post automatically for me (which then usually takes an extra few weeks on top). |
Originally Posted by absoluy
(Post 30792164)
January points have posted - as expected, my BA tickets failed to post automatically. Again.
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Originally Posted by skippythelizard
(Post 30793719)
They might still be processing. My account has not yet been updated
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Do BXP1 clear in C?
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR
(Post 30794861)
Do BXP1 clear in C?
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Originally Posted by skippythelizard
(Post 30793719)
They might still be processing. My account has not yet been updated...we had a lot of AA flights in January (and only 1 BA flight), and no flights appear yet.
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Originally Posted by ryan182
(Post 30736585)
Thanks, confirms my concern...I'll set an EF alert and call in to un-waitlist/re-apply should I get an alert and know better for next time!! Frustrating part is I booked Mint for the outbound but figured I'd take AA for the return to grab some EQMs as the Mint ticket was $400ish and AA was >$700 for J but $180 for Y and with a completely empty J cabin figured I'd likely clear using BXP as I need EQMs more than EQDs this year. If I had a do-over I would have just booked Mint both directions :/
Given the schedule change was not ideal for me I took the option to refund the 200ish I paid AA and just booked a Mint flight for ~400 since if I have to leave later (the earliest Mint flight was 12:35 so not much later than the AA flight I was moved to) I figured it made sense to pay an extra $200 to save the BXP1 not have to gamble on the upgrade. I checked and AA J fare on the same flight was >$700 and that is on a domestic 737 that doesn't include a lie flat suite with a door so as much as I'd like to earn miles/EQMs and stay with AA it just doesn't make sense to do so in this case. The refund has been processed but that was all done via regular AA EXP reservations so my new question is: regarding the BXP1 cert previously applied to by reservation, do I need to call meeting services to refund it or is that automatic and I can just re-use the cert number in the future? |
Originally Posted by Jonesdds
(Post 30789384)
I guess the key thing is if I am able to redeposit for no charge does that change the clock on when those 680 points will expire(or is it the same as when the certificate would?)
Originally Posted by platbrownguy
(Post 30789775)
...just call them and they'll waive the fee if you're an EXP.
Originally Posted by ryan182
(Post 30795348)
...so my new question is: regarding the BXP1 cert previously applied to by reservation, do I need to call meeting services to refund it or is that automatic and I can just re-use the cert number in the future?
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if you have to waitlist a BXP1, can you clear at the gate? if so, where does it place you in terms of priority vs UDU/stickers? i.e., would a Gold pax with a BXP1 trump an Plat Pro on a mid-tier Y fare with comp upgrades?
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Has anyone's Business Extra points for January flights been posted to their accounts yet?
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
(Post 30799850)
if you have to waitlist a BXP1, can you clear at the gate? if so, where does it place you in terms of priority vs UDU/stickers? i.e., would a Gold pax with a BXP1 trump an Plat Pro on a mid-tier Y fare with comp upgrades?
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Originally Posted by jlai777
(Post 30804189)
Has anyone's Business Extra points for January flights been posted to their accounts yet?
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Hi, if someone redeems 300 points on Business Extra for an Admirals Club Day Pass, when does that day pass expire? Thanks!
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Usually about an year. I just redeemed 300 points in early February and just got the One-Day Pass with an expiration date of June 30, 2020
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For the day passes I assume we should write in the name but leave the Date blank? Then he first club we visit will write in the date and then give it back to use later in the day at other clubs?
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I had a one way EZE-DFW-DCA itinerary in December. Ended up using miles+copay to upgrade the EZE-DFW leg from prem economy to business (economy for domestic leg). However, I only received BusinessExtra points for the DFW-DCA leg even though it was all one ticket number. I’ve already emailed in but curious if anyone has experienced this before. Thanks! |
Anyone ever try unapplying a BXP1 that has already cleared if it looks like the upgrade would clear as a UDU sticker upgrade instead? |
I feel like its time for another BE promotion :)
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Originally Posted by lightbulbs
(Post 30853181)
Anyone ever try unapplying a BXP1 that has already cleared if it looks like the upgrade would clear as a UDU sticker upgrade instead? I would just make doubly sure that they put a note on your PNR/record/certificate/whatever that shows the upgrade was removed and never used. |
Originally Posted by JJeffrey
(Post 30853917)
Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, but I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to call Meeting Services and ask them to un-apply your BXP1.
I would just make doubly sure that they put a note on your PNR/record/certificate/whatever that shows the upgrade was removed and never used. |
Called yesterday to clear a J to F - nice surprise that as long as the flight is ticketed and there is confirmable space they will apply even if the flight is after the cert expiration date. I could be wrong but pretty sure that is not the case with SWUs (outside of exceptions due to Eagle ranking)?
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If I booked Y and upgraded with a cert will I earn double eqm? It seems so unlikely but worth the ask I suppose
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