ARCHIVE: Domestic Same Day Confirmed Flight Change / SDFC / SDC / CFC / "Standby"
Dec 11, 2017, 12:09 pm
#676
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CLT
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Question re: timing of request availability: I have an upcoming FLL-CLT-LAX flight in paid first. The connection in CLT is tight and I would like to go on a later CLT-LAX flight, keeping the same FLL-CLT flight. When should I check availability? T-24 of the FLL-CLT leg or the desired CLT-LAX leg?
Also, ticket was booked through AMEX Travel to use a credit I had there. Will that affect anything (i.e., AA saying they can't touch the reservation because AMEX made it)?
Thanks!
Also, ticket was booked through AMEX Travel to use a credit I had there. Will that affect anything (i.e., AA saying they can't touch the reservation because AMEX made it)?
Thanks!
Dec 12, 2017, 8:05 am
#677
Join Date: Apr 2008
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I think I learned something new about SDFC this morning. Tried to do a SDFC on a D fare FLL-CLT-LAX. I only wanted to change the CLT-LAX leg. It had D inventory and E inventory and I was booked in D. Was told that I couldn't change because there was no D inventory on the FLL-CLT leg, though there was E inventory, and that the original fare inventory has to be available for all legs, even on the ones you aren't changing.
This doesn't make sense to me. Is this part of their "new rules" or has it always been like this?
This doesn't make sense to me. Is this part of their "new rules" or has it always been like this?
Dec 12, 2017, 9:26 am
#678
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: DCA/IAD/WAS
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I think I learned something new about SDFC this morning. Tried to do a SDFC on a D fare FLL-CLT-LAX. I only wanted to change the CLT-LAX leg. It had D inventory and E inventory and I was booked in D. Was told that I couldn't change because there was no D inventory on the FLL-CLT leg, though there was E inventory, and that the original fare inventory has to be available for all legs, even on the ones you aren't changing.
This doesn't make sense to me. Is this part of their "new rules" or has it always been like this?
This doesn't make sense to me. Is this part of their "new rules" or has it always been like this?
Dec 12, 2017, 9:29 am
#679
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: AA Gold, Enterprise PLT, Marriott Gold
Posts: 604
I think I learned something new about SDFC this morning. Tried to do a SDFC on a D fare FLL-CLT-LAX. I only wanted to change the CLT-LAX leg. It had D inventory and E inventory and I was booked in D. Was told that I couldn't change because there was no D inventory on the FLL-CLT leg, though there was E inventory, and that the original fare inventory has to be available for all legs, even on the ones you aren't changing.
This doesn't make sense to me. Is this part of their "new rules" or has it always been like this?
This doesn't make sense to me. Is this part of their "new rules" or has it always been like this?
Dec 12, 2017, 10:08 am
#680
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CLT
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If you were only trying to SDFC CLT-LAX I have no idea why your FLL-CLT would matter at all. If there was D inventory for CLT-LAX's new flight and you were booked D on your CLT-LAX flt I do not see why you couldn't. Sounds like an incompetent agent to me. I would try again in CLT to make the switch.
Dec 12, 2017, 10:27 am
#681
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Location: NYC
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Would the change flight have exceeded stopover time limit?
Dec 14, 2017, 4:24 am
#682
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: MUC
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Just to confirm it for me. If I´m having a booking LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS ticket in F and want to change the JFK-LAX-LAS part to earlier flights, I´m not eligible, because of the LHR-JFK part, right? Or can I ask in JFK if they can put me on the earlier flights, since the international part is already gone by then?
Dec 14, 2017, 9:55 am
#683
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Just to confirm it for me. If I´m having a booking LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS ticket in F and want to change the JFK-LAX-LAS part to earlier flights, I´m not eligible, because of the LHR-JFK part, right? Or can I ask in JFK if they can put me on the earlier flights, since the international part is already gone by then?
-FlyerBeek
Dec 14, 2017, 1:35 pm
#684
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Dec 14, 2017, 3:20 pm
#685
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No, highly unlikely. You still need to conform with the SDFC rules (namely, no change in routing). I have had the LHR staff rebook me on more advantageous routings on request, but ONLY when it was to their benefit (ie my flight was oversold).
-FlyerBeek
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Dec 15, 2017, 1:33 am
#686
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: Alaska Gold 75K, AA EXP, United 1K
Posts: 472
I too have had luck changing the domestic legs after the Int'l leg is flown. I usually try as soon as I land and are maybe 50/50 on the EXP line. When that fails, I always succeed at the AC or gate whenever there are seats available. Have even had luck without asking being confirmed in forward cabin when previous upgrade was confirmed. I have had limited luck doing SDC on LHR-JFK when part of an onward journey beyond JFK. Find that pretty annoying and have never known if that is actually the rule or not.
Dec 15, 2017, 1:34 am
#687
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Dec 16, 2017, 1:26 pm
#688
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas/Orlando
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 2,716
Apologies if I missed the answer to this query, but on my scan of recent posts, I couldn't find it.
What is AA's policy regarding accommodating paid premium cabin standby passengers into the premium cabin of an earlier flight?
Scenario: My (PPro) fiancé was flying paid F MCODFW last night, and was able to get off standby into Y for an earlier flight. After his new BP was issued, gate agent processed several Y to F upgrades. Is he just out of luck? I suppose he was reticketed into "E" and the appropriate coach fare class and accordingly for all intents and purposes he was then not a paid F flyer?
My (naive) assumption is that AA would want to get paid F flyers into F rather than "give it away" (I know that's a debatable topic) to a coach fare. Granted, some coach fares could be more expensive than some F fares...
Fiancé and I were both thankful that AA got him on the earlier flight, regardless.
Any expert insight would be appreciated.
What is AA's policy regarding accommodating paid premium cabin standby passengers into the premium cabin of an earlier flight?
Scenario: My (PPro) fiancé was flying paid F MCODFW last night, and was able to get off standby into Y for an earlier flight. After his new BP was issued, gate agent processed several Y to F upgrades. Is he just out of luck? I suppose he was reticketed into "E" and the appropriate coach fare class and accordingly for all intents and purposes he was then not a paid F flyer?
My (naive) assumption is that AA would want to get paid F flyers into F rather than "give it away" (I know that's a debatable topic) to a coach fare. Granted, some coach fares could be more expensive than some F fares...
Fiancé and I were both thankful that AA got him on the earlier flight, regardless.
Any expert insight would be appreciated.
Dec 16, 2017, 2:04 pm
#689
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Posts: 2,846
Apologies if I missed the answer to this query, but on my scan of recent posts, I couldn't find it.
What is AA's policy regarding accommodating paid premium cabin standby passengers into the premium cabin of an earlier flight?
Scenario: My (PPro) fiancé was flying paid F MCODFW last night, and was able to get off standby into Y for an earlier flight. After his new BP was issued, gate agent processed several Y to F upgrades. Is he just out of luck? I suppose he was reticketed into "E" and the appropriate coach fare class and accordingly for all intents and purposes he was then not a paid F flyer?
My (naive) assumption is that AA would want to get paid F flyers into F rather than "give it away" (I know that's a debatable topic) to a coach fare. Granted, some coach fares could be more expensive than some F fares...
Fiancé and I were both thankful that AA got him on the earlier flight, regardless.
Any expert insight would be appreciated.
What is AA's policy regarding accommodating paid premium cabin standby passengers into the premium cabin of an earlier flight?
Scenario: My (PPro) fiancé was flying paid F MCODFW last night, and was able to get off standby into Y for an earlier flight. After his new BP was issued, gate agent processed several Y to F upgrades. Is he just out of luck? I suppose he was reticketed into "E" and the appropriate coach fare class and accordingly for all intents and purposes he was then not a paid F flyer?
My (naive) assumption is that AA would want to get paid F flyers into F rather than "give it away" (I know that's a debatable topic) to a coach fare. Granted, some coach fares could be more expensive than some F fares...
Fiancé and I were both thankful that AA got him on the earlier flight, regardless.
Any expert insight would be appreciated.
For same-day confirmed flight changes on first class tickets, the same fare bucket must be available. So, for example, if your fiancé was ticketed in D, D class must have been available for a confirmed flight change to be available.
It sounds like there was no availability in the original fare bucket in which your fiancé's ticket was booked, so he was put on standby. Assuming your fiancé was booked in an actual first class fare bucket (and not a Y-up or Instant Upgrade fare bucket), he should have been on standby for a first class seat, and he should have cleared before upgrades. Unfortunately, the standby and upgrade lists are separate, and sometimes agents will clear upgrades before standbys. In this type of situation, I generally try to get to the gate a little early and let the gate agent know that I am on the standby list with a first class ticket.
If your fiancé had been booked on a Y-UP fare, then he would have had to clear onto the flight in economy before then being placed on the upgrade list. If this was the case, it sounds like he may have not been placed on the upgrade list once he cleared the standby flight. But he was not entitled to clear directly into first class.
Last edited by flyingeph12; Dec 16, 2017 at 2:10 pm
Dec 16, 2017, 3:21 pm
#690
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas/Orlando
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Thank you, that was helpful.
He was originally booked in I fare class, which is obviously discounted business, but not a Y-UP, to my knowledge.
Thanks again.
He was originally booked in I fare class, which is obviously discounted business, but not a Y-UP, to my knowledge.
Thanks again.