Is AA "Cooked"?
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Get rid of the incompetent flight attendants, try to become a world-class carrier, invest in a real business class and you'll be able to tell Scotty that he was wrong.
By the way, offer a meal from Charlotte to LaGuardia instead of a snack basket.
By the way, offer a meal from Charlotte to LaGuardia instead of a snack basket.
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It's pretty obvious what Scott Kirby is doing. He's petty and revengeful, and he's practicing "if you repeat the lie enough times people will start to believe in it". AA has made many terrible mistakes in the past decade, and the management is for sure at fault. However, I don't think AA is in a irreversible course of doom. United may be riding on a high last year, but they've already started cutting unprofitable European routes. On top of that, United still has that pending big labor contract negotiation which is bound to drive up its cost and United's PRASM will go down in the coming years. Of course these are not things Scott Kirby is talking about.
Some of these decisions are permanent or take decades to undo. UA's Isom-equivalent, Smisek bailing on JFK is still hurting UA. AA let DL eat it's lunch in NYC, no coming back from that. With the latest gate allocations in ORD, UA seems poised to give AA one final kick between the legs; AA won't go away at ORD, but UA will keep poaching away high value customers, leading to AA cutting frequencies, leading to more defections etc etc.
DL has been the clear #1 for a while, both financially and operationally. Kind of hard to take pot shots at that without looking foolish. In addition, AA is both his former employer and a clown show, so it's both personal and easy.
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UA is weird - their own metal cost is atrocious like AA, but I have been able to find some some pretty decent partner redemptions using UA miles. Some are mixed cabin (partner J and a short UA leg in Y), but I'll happily take that.
Domestically, AA miles are far, far easier to redeem at great value.
Domestically, AA miles are far, far easier to redeem at great value.
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UA is weird - their own metal cost is atrocious like AA, but I have been able to find some some pretty decent partner redemptions using UA miles. Some are mixed cabin (partner J and a short UA leg in Y), but I'll happily take that.
Domestically, AA miles are far, far easier to redeem at great value.
Domestically, AA miles are far, far easier to redeem at great value.
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Scott Kirby has indicated that there should only be two majors and the AA is Cooked. My experience this year would tend to agree with him.
United CEO Scott Kirby Confidently Declares That American Is Cooked - One Mile at a Time
Anyone else?
United CEO Scott Kirby Confidently Declares That American Is Cooked - One Mile at a Time
Anyone else?
Is AA underperforming compared to UA and DL? Of course, that's been covered here thoroughly. But any suggestion of reduction to two major airlines should send shivers down the spine of every traveler.
Now I'm certain Scott doesn't read this forum nor does he care what I think but I will say: I'm very impressed with what he has done with United. I'm posting this from a Polaris lounge. But, Scott: get over AA, stop talking about them. Focus on continuing the great improvements you've spearheaded at UA.
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Kirby is an obnoxious mouthpiece trying to stay relevant...as usual. If your competition is failing then you don't brag about it and advertise it to the world. You say nothing and let them quietly fall. The fact that he is singling out AA tells me that AA is a very real threat to his business model. JMHO
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UA is weird - their own metal cost is atrocious like AA, but I have been able to find some some pretty decent partner redemptions using UA miles. Some are mixed cabin (partner J and a short UA leg in Y), but I'll happily take that.
Domestically, AA miles are far, far easier to redeem at great value.
Domestically, AA miles are far, far easier to redeem at great value.
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There's really no correlation between FFP value and the sponsoring airline's financial health and ability to compete. I'm also a fan of the AA program relative to UA and DL, but concerned the airline may fade into irrelevance. Current management's indecisive tinkering around the edges is not going to cure its ills, which include an increasingly debilitating debt load.


