Today's instance of AA stupidity
Mar 11, 2025 | 2:59 pm
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Today's instance of AA stupidity
Today's version of how stupid can AA be...
5582 CLT/IAD sched takeoff 15:35, arrival 16:57
5582 IAD/CLT sched takeoff 17:28, which makes boarding time 16:58
So they really think 1 min is enough? No wonder they can't operate on schedule
5582 CLT/IAD sched takeoff 15:35, arrival 16:57
5582 IAD/CLT sched takeoff 17:28, which makes boarding time 16:58
So they really think 1 min is enough? No wonder they can't operate on schedule
Mar 11, 2025 | 3:04 pm
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Mar 11, 2025 | 3:22 pm
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Im saying that keeping an asset in operation is far more important than being able to board an aircraft that takes maybe 15 minutes to board at exactly T-30.
Mar 11, 2025 | 3:54 pm
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i guess this is somewhat normal? took jal at the start of this year, my 1st flight was delayed, so i only had 20-25 minutes from the time i touch down to my connecting flight taking off. when i informed the check in agent that i had an extremely short transit time and will likely miss the connecting, she replied that they expect the 1st flight to be ahead of [the new] schedule, so i would be fine. lo and behold, we didnt arrive ahead of schedule, but even later than expected, 10-15 minutes before connecting flight took off. it was a mess at the connecting bridge; there was a ton of jal officers trying to get hold of passengers as i think many others also missed their connecting.
Mar 11, 2025 | 4:03 pm
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Looks like they got off a few minutes early with a very early arrival expected into CLT which will get eaten up by taxi delays placing them right about on-time.
Mar 11, 2025 | 4:12 pm
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30 minute turns for ERJ-145s and CRJ-700s are pretty common. As Dlnewbie says above the plane arrived in today at 4:51 (6 minutes early) and departed at 5:25 (3 minutes early) and expected in CLT 10 minutes early after a very long taxi time at IAD (although that could easily change due to CLT taxi times). One could argue AA does a lot of stupid things but 30 minute outstation turns and schedule padding are both reasonable airline operations.
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Mar 11, 2025 | 4:16 pm
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realistically, prob more appropriate for the “Stupidest and Least Substantive Thing You Can Complain About” thread (esp since OP’s profile says AA Plat and FT member since 2009) 
this, x1000
this, x1000
Mar 11, 2025 | 6:22 pm
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30 minute turns for ERJ-145s and CRJ-700s are pretty common. As Dlnewbie says above the plane arrived in today at 4:51 (6 minutes early) and departed at 5:25 (3 minutes early) and expected in CLT 10 minutes early after a very long taxi time at IAD (although that could easily change due to CLT taxi times). One could argue AA does a lot of stupid things but 30 minute outstation turns and schedule padding are both reasonable airline operations.
I get that today it worked out. However, in the event that things are simply on schedule and not early (or heaven forbid a few minutes late, this is AA after all), how is this possible?
Mar 11, 2025 | 7:16 pm
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AA is famous for their unrealistic departure times. Yesterday at 9:39 PM, AA was saying the flight is departing at 9:40 PM. Meanwhile I'm at the bar nearby as they haven't even started boarding.
This is not normal - far better performing airlines (see DOT data) don't do this.
This is not normal - far better performing airlines (see DOT data) don't do this.
Mar 11, 2025 | 8:37 pm
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OP wasnt ranting about a published connection; the comment deals with the fact that the jets arrival and departure times for the IAD turnaround dont comport well with the reality of ground operations, even at an outstation that only sees half a dozen AA flights a day
Mar 12, 2025 | 5:56 am
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Mar 12, 2025 | 6:48 am
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30 minute turns for ERJ-145s and CRJ-700s are pretty common. As Dlnewbie says above the plane arrived in today at 4:51 (6 minutes early) and departed at 5:25 (3 minutes early) and expected in CLT 10 minutes early after a very long taxi time at IAD (although that could easily change due to CLT taxi times). One could argue AA does a lot of stupid things but 30 minute outstation turns and schedule padding are both reasonable airline operations.
What's the point of having a schedule then? If you can reliably count on it arriving early, adjust the arrival time and allow for a proper turn time.
Mar 12, 2025 | 7:10 am
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A 30 minute turn makes sense, sure. But this isn't scheduled to be a 30 minute turn. On paper, it is a 1 minute turn.
What's the point of having a schedule then? If you can reliably count on it arriving early, adjust the arrival time and allow for a proper turn time.
What's the point of having a schedule then? If you can reliably count on it arriving early, adjust the arrival time and allow for a proper turn time.