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notquiteaff Mar 2, 2025 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by MahiMahi524 (Post 36931066)
I spent a couple hours on the phone but other than reading the notes and acknowledging it doesn't seem to be my fault, nobody empowered to fix something at this scale is working on the weekend at AMEX. I spoke to someone at Segment A (their high spend/value dept, which is apparently the highest level working on weekends).

AA and Amex really need to offer you something meaningful to reward you for your diligence and honesty and for the time you were forced to waste due to their series of ridiculous mistakes.

FAA1996 Mar 2, 2025 6:27 pm

I'm surprised AmEx hasnt frozen the card. Id been a cardmemebr for 40 years when i pit a $100k purchase in my AmEx, charge went through but then they frozen account and asked for provenance of funds. That was my last transaction with them before closing the account.

JessicaTam Mar 2, 2025 8:37 pm

That reminds me of my experience with QR. I had booked flights just before COVID that I had to cancel.

It was ex CGK so the AUD 2,800 fare was paid as IDR 28,000,000 correctly.

When it was refunded I received AUD 28,000,000.

It took about 24 hours to be resolved with (fortunately) no input from me.

So best of luck to the OP getting this resolved.

Qatar Airways Passenger Almost Gets $28 million Refund

Antarius Mar 3, 2025 12:22 am


Originally Posted by MahiMahi524 (Post 36931066)
Looks like I'm semi-famous. VFTW has now posted about this. Someone at CNN also sent me a PM. The last update I got on Friday from both AA and AMEX was that they think it will be fixed on Monday, and would coordinate with the various AMEX depts to make sure my account isn't frozen/flagged/reported/audited. The fingerpointing has also begun between AA and AMEX.

if you get a chance to go on any news platform- go for it! This is quite the story to tell. And you should be the one to tell it!

The bloggers are leeches. They source everything from FT or 1 specific Twitter account and act as if they're breaking news.

As a FTer- Thanks for the regular updates. This is a fascinating story and we appreciate hearing how it plays out. Rooting for you :tu:

S80 Mar 3, 2025 1:22 am


Originally Posted by notquiteaff (Post 36927510)
Did you also receive 30M MRs?

Or do you need to write them a check first?


Originally Posted by caliform (Post 36929607)
At 5× for airline charges that’s 140 Mr points! A steal!


Originally Posted by HofstraJet (Post 36929664)
5X MRs. :D


Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 36932290)
The bloggers are leeches. They source everything from FT or 1 specific Twitter account and act as if they're breaking news.

As a FTer- Thanks for the regular updates. This is a fascinating story and we appreciate hearing how it plays out. Rooting for you :tu:

My favorite part of all of this is that they just plain copied the comments on the 140M MR points without doing any sort of due diligence - the 5x multiplier is only on the first 500k spend, so it's more like 32M MR. Really proves how much they know about the cards they shill - or how if you put that much on the card in the first place, you don't need to worry about MR points. And for those who got it wrong and who aren't shilling cards, well, you're actively contributing to the community vs just leeching off of us, and it's a silly thing to remember anyways.
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caliform Mar 3, 2025 11:20 am

Speak for yourself, I know plenty of people that opened new cards to keep earning MR past the caps... :)

DomP1 Mar 6, 2025 12:56 pm

Any update?

MahiMahi524 Mar 6, 2025 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by DomP1 (Post 36940311)
Any update?

The error is down to about $75K, supposedly will be fixed in the next day. I’m a little doubtful but at least moving in the right direction. I’ve been getting almost daily phone calls from Amex and AA, which I appreciate.

yelped Mar 6, 2025 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by MahiMahi524 (Post 36940391)
The error is down to about $75K, supposedly will be fixed in the next day. I’m a little doubtful but at least moving in the right direction. I’ve been getting almost daily phone calls from Amex and AA, which I appreciate.

How does that happen? I am curious in to all the logic behind these amounts.

DomP1 Mar 6, 2025 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by MahiMahi524 (Post 36940391)
The error is down to about $75K, supposedly will be fixed in the next day. I’m a little doubtful but at least moving in the right direction. I’ve been getting almost daily phone calls from Amex and AA, which I appreciate.

Could you advise who is calling you from Amex?

MahiMahi524 Mar 6, 2025 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by DomP1 (Post 36940614)
Could you advise who is calling you from Amex?

A specific person from a small department called customer outreach or customer research (I've heard it referred to both ways by various employees) has been handling my case. They are based in Florida and have a direct number I can call to reach a live person (during business hours) without having to go through a phone tree or outsourced agents, and are extremely good at placing outbound follow up calls. They seem to have the ability to coordinate with supervisors/leadership at various departments in the Amex machine. For this case alone, she says she has contacted people at Credit/Lending, Merchant Services (the primary culprit), Partner Liaisons, Disputes, and the Rewards team to make sure nobody red flags the account and to push them for faster resolutions.

ETA: I almost never have any company have reps proactively actually follow up with me regarding a problem, and if they do it's usually just 1 call, and have always had to call in to get follow up. I now have 2 companies calling me nearly daily, so it does seem it reached a level that both companies are taking seriously.

cjglick Mar 6, 2025 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by MahiMahi524 (Post 36940748)
A specific person from a small department called customer outreach or customer research (I've heard it referred to both ways by various employees) has been handling my case. They are based in Florida and have a direct number I can call to reach a live person (during business hours) without having to go through a phone tree or outsourced agents, and are extremely good to placing outbound follow up calls. They seem to have the ability to coordinate with supervisors/leadership at various departments in the Amex machine. For this case alone, she has says she has contacted people at Credit/Lending, Merchant Services (the primary culprit), Partner Liaisons, Disputes, and the Rewards team to make sure nobody red flags the account.

ETA: I almost never have any company have reps proactively actually follow up with me regarding a problem, and if they do it's usually just 1 call, and have always had to call in to get follow up. I now have 2 companies calling me nearly daily, so it does seem it reached a level that both companies are taking seriously.

I'm glad to hear they're taking it seriously. Have they mentioned any kind of compensation? Even if it gets fixed I would really demand both offer some kind of tangible apology to the extent that I have the leverage to.

MahiMahi524 Mar 6, 2025 5:47 pm


Originally Posted by cjglick (Post 36940835)
I'm glad to hear they're taking it seriously. Have they mentioned any kind of compensation? Even if it gets fixed I would really demand both offer some kind of tangible apology to the extent that I have the leverage to.

No mention of any compensation from either party.

IADCAflyer Mar 6, 2025 7:08 pm

Wish you could be earning interest off of this.............

Caspavio Mar 7, 2025 10:11 am


Originally Posted by MahiMahi524 (Post 36940748)
ETA: I almost never have any company have reps proactively actually follow up with me regarding a problem, and if they do it's usually just 1 call, and have always had to call in to get follow up. I now have 2 companies calling me nearly daily, so it does seem it reached a level that both companies are taking seriously.

im not sure this is good or bad. on one 1 hand, it is great that they are both proactive, but on the other, the fact that there is still a 75k charge after 2 corrections is worrying.


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