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Old Jun 8, 2024 | 5:42 pm
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I have no status with AA, but my wife and I were waitlisted for F on the domestic legs of my AA J award from Africa. (First two legs are with QR.) Do we go to the bottom of the upgrade list, due to no status? If not, where should we fall on the list (above/below whom)? Thanks!
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Old Jun 8, 2024 | 6:56 pm
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Yes. If anyone with status gets added to the waitlist, they jump ahead of you.
Anyone with no status that has more AA Loyalty Points over past rolling 12 months jumps ahead.
For the most part, anyone using AA Systemwide certificates or mileage award upgrades jump ahead of all complimentary upgrades.
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I think you'll get better replies. My answer is based on North America; do they have int'l comp upgrades?
Are you using SWU's?
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Old Jun 8, 2024 | 7:32 pm
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I think you'll get better replies. My answer is based on North America; do they have int'l comp upgrades?
Are you using SWU's?
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Nope, no complimentary upgrades for long haul international flights. And SWUs cant be used on award tickets, so OP isnt using them.
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I think the OP is sat in Y on the domestic legs of a J award, and hoping the F space clears. If so this is not really an upgrade- more of a getting what you paid for. But in the 100 hour upgrade window i think you are still systemically subordinate to those with status. Maybe set an EF flag for the booking code you need to clear into F, and monitor it, calling in if it opens up.
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Originally Posted by craigpd
I have no status with AA, but my wife and I were waitlisted for F on the domestic legs of my AA J award from Africa. (First two legs are with QR.) Do we go to the bottom of the upgrade list, due to no status? If not, where should we fall on the list (above/below whom)? Thanks!
With no status and on an award ticket, I'm very curious as to how exactly you are "waitlisted" on this flight??
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 6:55 am
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With no status and on an award ticket, I'm very curious as to how exactly you are "waitlisted" on this flight??
If you have a J award but got put in coach on some legs, can't you waitlist for those legs, similar to someone who bought a paid J or F ticket but got downgraded on one or more legs? When this happens, I thought you were above upgraders as this isn't technically an upgrade -- it's getting what you paid for. Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by killerbrew
Yes. If anyone with status gets added to the waitlist, they jump ahead of you.
Anyone with no status that has more AA Loyalty Points over past rolling 12 months jumps ahead.
For the most part, anyone using AA Systemwide certificates or mileage award upgrades jump ahead of all complimentary upgrades.
My understanding was that instrument upgrades on routes with complimentary upgrades aren't prioritized. No matter the upgrade method it's all based on status and LP (ie if I applied a SWU for a friend on JFK-LAX, they'd still be below all status members requesting complimentary upgrades). If I'm wrong that would actually be good news.
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Originally Posted by craigpd
I have no status with AA, but my wife and I were waitlisted for F on the domestic legs of my AA J award from Africa. (First two legs are with QR.) Do we go to the bottom of the upgrade list, due to no status? If not, where should we fall on the list (above/below whom)? Thanks!
Sounds like you're going from somewhere in Africa on QR for 2 hops to an AA flight somewhere in Europe/Mid East for the flight back over the Atlantic to the US, and you are wanting to know about upgrading on the AA leg. Are you on a paid ticket and waitlisted with miles to upgrade the AA segment? In that case, your priority will be below any other elite AA members using miles and/or an SWU certificate. Or are you on an award ticket booked in First (or business?) but only getting the cabin on a few legs and waitlisted for the others?

If you're wanting to know about upgrading on QR you'd have to check their web site and/or their forum here on FT.
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Originally Posted by USFlyerUS
If you have a J award but got put in coach on some legs, can't you waitlist for those legs, similar to someone who bought a paid J or F ticket but got downgraded on one or more legs? When this happens, I thought you were above upgraders as this isn't technically an upgrade -- it's getting what you paid for. Am I missing something?
Not really. There is the "DSR" thing that gets thrown around on here from time to time, however 1) voluntary downgrades on award tickets are not really "DSR" as you have voluntary booked the lower cabin at booking, and 2) finding an agent that knows how to do it and will do it in this scenario (see #1 above) is very low probability, and 3) this must be done at the airport AFAIK.

So I could be wrong, but unless the OP is at the airport right now and has overcome #1 and #2 above, I really have no idea how they are on any kind of waitlist.
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by craigpd
I have no status with AA, but my wife and I were waitlisted for F on the domestic legs of my AA J award from Africa. (First two legs are with QR.) Do we go to the bottom of the upgrade list, due to no status? If not, where should we fall on the list (above/below whom)? Thanks!
OP, are you actually currently on the waitlist? Or were you just told (perhaps mistakenly, perhaps by some phone agent ) that you were on the waitlist?
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
Not really. There is the "DSR" thing that gets thrown around on here from time to time, however 1) voluntary downgrades on award tickets are not really "DSR" as you have voluntary booked the lower cabin at booking, and 2) finding an agent that knows how to do it and will do it in this scenario (see #1 above) is very low probability, and 3) this must be done at the airport AFAIK.

So I could be wrong, but unless the OP is at the airport right now and has overcome #1 and #2 above, I really have no idea how they are on any kind of waitlist.
Interesting. I've always been under the impression you could waitlist for F on these domestic segments, assuming the entire award was priced as a J award.
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 9:18 am
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If the OP is actually waitlisted for F, then I'm pretty that would put him ahead of upgraders in the pecking order.
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by craigpd
I have no status with AA, but my wife and I were waitlisted for F on the domestic legs of my AA J award from Africa. (First two legs are with QR.) Do we go to the bottom of the upgrade list, due to no status? If not, where should we fall on the list (above/below whom)? Thanks!
Don't think you will actually be on the wait list since it's an award ticket and you have no status. Even if you are on it, you will be at the bottom as you have no status and the priority order is based on status first
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by craig_2029
Don't think you will actually be on the wait list since it's an award ticket and you have no status. Even if you are on it, you will be at the bottom as you have no status and the priority order is based on status first
If he is on the wait list, that's not an upgrade.
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