Purchased travel insurance and flight cancellation/change
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Purchased travel insurance and flight cancellation/change
I purchased the travel insurance as i booked my flight:
- My connection was cancelled in LHR - stuck there for over a day
- My original flight was canceled and booked on an earlier flight by AA automatically - so stayed at LAX for longer time.
I received one night stay and the hotel breakfast - also prior night dinner at the hotel. The voucher for to and from airport never worked. Happened around June 11th and just returned home.
Also on arrival, I had to purchased a train ride for 200kms as I arrived a day later. Trains also have dynamic pricing. Is this also valid re-reimbursement?
What can I claim? Tips?
- My connection was cancelled in LHR - stuck there for over a day
- My original flight was canceled and booked on an earlier flight by AA automatically - so stayed at LAX for longer time.
I received one night stay and the hotel breakfast - also prior night dinner at the hotel. The voucher for to and from airport never worked. Happened around June 11th and just returned home.
Also on arrival, I had to purchased a train ride for 200kms as I arrived a day later. Trains also have dynamic pricing. Is this also valid re-reimbursement?
What can I claim? Tips?
Last edited by sciconf; Jul 4, 2023 at 9:02 am
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The answer depends on your insurance carrier and what the policy you purchased covers. Start by re-reading that.
As for a general answer: What did you pay for out of pocket that the airline did not cover in some form? It would be an unusual policy to pay damages just for the delay itself.
The insurance carrier will want you to hit AA up for the cab rides that would not take the voucher first.
DId the train ride you purchased replace a train ride you missed because of the delay, or some other method of getting to your final destination or what? Did you lose the value of an unused ticket, or you just missed a chance to ride with somebody?
As for a general answer: What did you pay for out of pocket that the airline did not cover in some form? It would be an unusual policy to pay damages just for the delay itself.
The insurance carrier will want you to hit AA up for the cab rides that would not take the voucher first.
DId the train ride you purchased replace a train ride you missed because of the delay, or some other method of getting to your final destination or what? Did you lose the value of an unused ticket, or you just missed a chance to ride with somebody?
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It sounds like the airline took care of the delay at LHR with meals and accommodation so you can’t claim on travel insurance for that. Transport to and from the airport during the delay can be claimed on travel insurance under trip delay because you were out of pocket on that. The train fare to catch up to your original itinerary should also be claimed on travel insurance, again under trip delay coverage. You will need receipts for all expenses to be reimbursed and documentation from the airline that they were responsible for the delay, and proof of your original itinerary to confirm that the train fare was to catch up with prior arrangements. If I recall correctly there is an area on the AA website to request such information. You cannot normally claim on travel insurance for flights being brought forward, although sometimes the airline will pay for accommodation and meals if an overnight stay was required but that can be hit or miss and European airlines are more generous on that than US airlines because of different laws. If you flew on AA metal into Europe those laws don’t apply, on the other hand if you flew on BA metal into London from LAX then those laws do apply. Your credit card may also provide trip delay coverage but the terms will likely be more restrictive than your travel insurance and you will still need receipts and the proof mentioned above.
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Depending on the reason for the cancellation at Heathrow you may be entitled to compensation of GBP520 from the airline whose flight was cancelled - not an insurance claim though
As far as what you can claim off of your insurance really comes down to the policy conditions. Have a read of the policy schedule and see what is covered
As far as what you can claim off of your insurance really comes down to the policy conditions. Have a read of the policy schedule and see what is covered
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It can do a lot , depending on the policy- That in this situation the policy taken out by the OP may not have given him anything does not extrapolate out to insurance being useless
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Depending on the reason for the cancellation at Heathrow you may be entitled to compensation of GBP520 from the airline whose flight was cancelled - not an insurance claim though
As far as what you can claim off of your insurance really comes down to the policy conditions. Have a read of the policy schedule and see what is covered
As far as what you can claim off of your insurance really comes down to the policy conditions. Have a read of the policy schedule and see what is covered
BA provided overnight stay, dinner and breakfast. Their coupon to ride on a bus to the hotel didn't work since that ride does not exist.
They also gave a $16 coupon for refreshment.
AA booked on Lufthansa for the following eve which was delayed by 2 hrs. So I was there for over 24hrs. Lunch + dinner on me. Plus ride to and from the airport as the voucher didn't work.
AA flew me from LAX. Flight on AA to LAX was also previously cancelled and they put me on an earlier flight automatically.
As for Furby my final destination was around 200km from FRA. Coming in a day later, I bought the train ticket on arrival. I was staying with a friend 200km from FRA as intended.
Am I eligible for the GBP 520 - how to claim? Anything else?
Last edited by sciconf; Jul 4, 2023 at 10:19 pm
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BA is liable to reimburse you for lunch , dinner and taxi to hotel
Since the cancellation was to a shorthaul service, depending on reason for cancellation, you may be entitled to £220 from BA
Any train ticket from airport onwards is yours - the airline is not liable for that - check whether insurance covers that
Since the cancellation was to a shorthaul service, depending on reason for cancellation, you may be entitled to £220 from BA
Any train ticket from airport onwards is yours - the airline is not liable for that - check whether insurance covers that
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Why was the BA flight cancelled?
That will determine if any statutory compensation is due. I recall there were storms then so that would preclude any compensation. But it would depend on the exact date of travel not an “around” date.
You can claim from BA the costs of getting from / to the hotel / airport since the voucher didn’t work.
Train fare is for travel insurance, Under the regulations airlines aren’t responsible for consequential losses like that or hotels, car hire or event tickets.
That will determine if any statutory compensation is due. I recall there were storms then so that would preclude any compensation. But it would depend on the exact date of travel not an “around” date.
You can claim from BA the costs of getting from / to the hotel / airport since the voucher didn’t work.
Train fare is for travel insurance, Under the regulations airlines aren’t responsible for consequential losses like that or hotels, car hire or event tickets.
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My original flight was AA metal into LHR. LHR to FRA was on BA metal. My 8pm BA flight was cancelled.
BA provided overnight stay, dinner and breakfast. Their coupon to ride on a bus to the hotel didn't work since that ride does not exist.
They also gave a $16 coupon for refreshment.
AA booked on Lufthansa for the following eve which was delayed by 2 hrs. So I was there for over 24hrs. Lunch + dinner on me. Plus ride to and from the airport as the voucher didn't work.
AA flew me from LAX. Flight on AA to LAX was also previously cancelled and they put me on an earlier flight automatically.
As for Furby my final destination was around 200km from FRA. Coming in a day later, I bought the train ticket on arrival. I was staying with a friend 200km from FRA as intended.
Am I eligible for the GBP 520 - how to claim? Anything else?
BA provided overnight stay, dinner and breakfast. Their coupon to ride on a bus to the hotel didn't work since that ride does not exist.
They also gave a $16 coupon for refreshment.
AA booked on Lufthansa for the following eve which was delayed by 2 hrs. So I was there for over 24hrs. Lunch + dinner on me. Plus ride to and from the airport as the voucher didn't work.
AA flew me from LAX. Flight on AA to LAX was also previously cancelled and they put me on an earlier flight automatically.
As for Furby my final destination was around 200km from FRA. Coming in a day later, I bought the train ticket on arrival. I was staying with a friend 200km from FRA as intended.
Am I eligible for the GBP 520 - how to claim? Anything else?
You may be due short haul compensation of £220 for the delay LHR to FRA because you were flying within the EU but as others have said you have to have been delayed by two hours or more, and it has to be for a reason outside of the airlines control. ATC and weather are not under the airlines control, mechanical and delays due to airline staffing are. It also has to be on a separate ticket from your long haul journey because they will argue that it was all part of the journey from the US to FRA booked on a single ticket, and the delay was due to a non EU carrier, and therefore compensation laws do not apply, and they will be correct.
You were provided vouchers for meals and accommodation during the delay at LHR so cannot claim that on travel insurance. You can probably claim the bus fare if you have a receipt but if that is the only expense it is small and frankly not worth the time and effort.
Because a friend was picking you up, you won’t be able to claim the train fare from Frankfurt. If you had missed pre paid non refundable transport because of the delay they would pay, but in their eyes you always have had to make that trip (and pay for it) and you are not out of pocket due to the delay since you had not yet bought a ticket. The fact that your friend would have picked you from the original flight and could no longer do so, is irrelevant. They only compensate for failures of what they call a common carrier which is essentially airlines, ferries, bus, trains ships.
Last edited by Furby; Jul 5, 2023 at 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by enviroian35387499
Depends. Solid coverage policies are pricy. Cheap ones yield little benefit.
YMMV.
YMMV.
I do this all the time at low cost and have successfully claimed several thousand dollars of expenses on multiple trips because of flight delays and cancellations. IMO it is an excellent investment, especially in the current state of travel. I am well ahead financially in doing so. A lot of credit cards will provide trip cancellation and trip interruption so you can be comprehensively insured at very low cost if you want to fill that gap.
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Trip delay coverage is usually part of a bigger policy, or you can buy a "lite" policy that doesn't include a cancellation benefit (or sometimes if you declare the cost of the trip at $0, you will still get the delay and medical benefits but no cancellation benefits, and it will be a lot less). That said, the delay coverage usually covers specific costs incurred due to specific reasons up to a limit -- either per day of delay and/or overall, and usually it requires a minimum delay before benefits kick in. That said, I haven't come across significant variations in covered reasons or coverage amounts for trip delay on different policies. Maybe worth noting that the "free" insurance with a credit card might be more limited. Amex Platinum insurance only provides delay insurance against weather and mechanical failure (and I believe lost documents and terrorism/hijacking but those are unlikely IMO). Nothing for air traffic control delays or crew availability, for example. But really at the end of the day, what your insurance will cover is spelled out in the documents, and it's important to know what your policy offers before purchasing, or before relying on it (in the case of free CC insurance).
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It’s all about trip delay coverage for me at least. Cheap policies have long time windows before you can use the benefit. More expensive policies, shorter time window. Simple.
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Don't you use a credit card which offers trip-delay coverage? Mine requires just a six-hour delay, but the benefit is limited to $500/ticket.