SFO - NYC First or Business?
#16
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Generally speaking, some of my personal views.
1. Flying with another - prefer J.
2. Alone - F is better without a seatmate.
3. F for FFD if I have to wait or if early check in isn't available.
4. Finally, prefer the last row in F or J - what's with people who always have go grab seats when they walk up & down the aisle or get up?
From JFK - SFO, prefer F because it's a longer flight and the amount of Champagne (LP GS) consumed, better to be spared the coach thing into the forward lavs.
1. Flying with another - prefer J.
2. Alone - F is better without a seatmate.
3. F for FFD if I have to wait or if early check in isn't available.
4. Finally, prefer the last row in F or J - what's with people who always have go grab seats when they walk up & down the aisle or get up?
From JFK - SFO, prefer F because it's a longer flight and the amount of Champagne (LP GS) consumed, better to be spared the coach thing into the forward lavs.
#17
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They should be. I haven't checked in luggage since the Clinton administration. When I travel international usually it's the gate agent that verifies docs, if at all.
#18
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First, OLCI doesn't always work international travel. I most recently had this issue when going to Mexico on AA a few weeks ago but I've had it on other airlines as well. I have actually never once successfully done international OLCI on UA. They just don't like my passport or something. I would guess that I've had to check in with an agent on at least half of my international flights (over all airlines)
Also I check a bag about 90% of the time and if I know I have to go to to the counter to drop off my bag I will sometimes not bother to OLCI.
#19
Join Date: Jan 2021
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#20
Join Date: Aug 2012
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RE: Int'l OLCI
There had been a period when flying from SFO - HKG, which for AA required a ferry to LAX, where OLCI simply wouldn't work for me. For whatever reason, AA or whatever contractor wanted me to physically check in at SFO for a document check. Now, AA has my documentation and shouldn't require it. From a foreign outstation, I get it; but, from the US? Are you kidding?
I had gotten so sick of this, one of the few tweet PMs (I knew they'd put this into my file) I had ever sent was a diatribe basically saying if they do this to me again, I'm flying another airline. I mean, what the heck is the point of flying a USA airline if they're going to treat me this way? Mind as well fly a foreign carrier then. Perhaps, it was purely coincidental, but this OLCI error thing stopped on int'l flights shortly after.
PS - Of course, this was before all this Covid crap and nonsense.
There had been a period when flying from SFO - HKG, which for AA required a ferry to LAX, where OLCI simply wouldn't work for me. For whatever reason, AA or whatever contractor wanted me to physically check in at SFO for a document check. Now, AA has my documentation and shouldn't require it. From a foreign outstation, I get it; but, from the US? Are you kidding?
I had gotten so sick of this, one of the few tweet PMs (I knew they'd put this into my file) I had ever sent was a diatribe basically saying if they do this to me again, I'm flying another airline. I mean, what the heck is the point of flying a USA airline if they're going to treat me this way? Mind as well fly a foreign carrier then. Perhaps, it was purely coincidental, but this OLCI error thing stopped on int'l flights shortly after.
PS - Of course, this was before all this Covid crap and nonsense.
#21
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#22
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The fares, as well as the fare differential, can vary BIGLY on these routes. Sometimes the fares are quite close, but this can be because they are both very cheap or because they are both very expensive.
#24
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Edinburgh
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 547
Travelling Eastbound on a night flight I wouldn't say it's worth the extra cash. Eat in the air if you like then go into bed mode. It's not a long enough flight that you'll miss out on much and you'll be descending before you know it.
#25
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SFO
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Also perfectly content with J on the red-eye where I typically go straight to sleep.
#26
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: BA GGL & GfL, AA LTP, Marriott (sigh) Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
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i find the J seat better for sleeping if on the red-eye--the padding is just more comfy IMO.
otherwise prefer F every time just because ive become spoiled with not sitting next to anyone.
otherwise prefer F every time just because ive become spoiled with not sitting next to anyone.
#28
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SFO, CLT
Programs: AA Bonsai EXP (2.9 MM), AS MVPG
Posts: 1,395
Hunt, dive, backpack, ski, golf, pole vault, etc, etc, etc – lots of worthwhile adventures require checking bags from time to time.
#29
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The less than handful of times I have checked in at the counter @ SFO (baggage or IROPS), there aren't dedicated check in desks, but there hasn't been much wait if any for the premium line. I have not seen the setup since the T1 move.
#30
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I agree the J seat has better padding (a super comfortable seat for sleeping), but I still prefer F for the redeye due to the lack of seatmate. Not sure I'd pay more than about $200 extra, but it's worth an SWU to me.