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Feb 2, 2022, 6:53 pm
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I see AA still hasn't solved its ramp staffing problem at DFW. I know the weather is unpleasant out there right now but I will wager money on any widebody departure on any day of the week in any weather situation at DFW taking a delay of 20-30 minutes for cargo loading.
I love the evening 789 nonstop DFW-LAX but it routinely takes minor delays for cargo. Even when the equipment has been sitting on the gate for hours and hours as it appears the ship operating AA38 tonight has done.
Airlines have been carrying lots of cargo in the bellies of widebody pax aircraft since the 1970s yet AA seems to have forgotten how to plan and staff for this.
I love the evening 789 nonstop DFW-LAX but it routinely takes minor delays for cargo. Even when the equipment has been sitting on the gate for hours and hours as it appears the ship operating AA38 tonight has done.
Airlines have been carrying lots of cargo in the bellies of widebody pax aircraft since the 1970s yet AA seems to have forgotten how to plan and staff for this.
Feb 2, 2022, 7:05 pm
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Now AA36 is reporting, "expected to depart shortly," for the past few minutes...
AA36 (AAL36) American Airlines Flight Tracking and History 02-Feb-2022 (KDFW-MAD / LEMD) - FlightAware
AA36 (AAL36) American Airlines Flight Tracking and History 02-Feb-2022 (KDFW-MAD / LEMD) - FlightAware
Feb 2, 2022, 7:16 pm
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Last WX observation at DFW was still temperature +1C. Over at both AFW and FTW though freezing rain has already been observed and temps either 0 or -1.
C'mon AA36, get deiced and takeoff already. I don't want my +850 bet on "Italian Airport Strike Strands Ian in MAD" to become no action!
C'mon AA36, get deiced and takeoff already. I don't want my +850 bet on "Italian Airport Strike Strands Ian in MAD" to become no action!
Feb 2, 2022, 7:35 pm
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AAL36 moving and headed for deicing on the SW pad.
www.liveatc.net
For now, monitor DFW West ground on 121.85
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For now, monitor DFW West ground on 121.85
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Feb 2, 2022, 8:08 pm
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If you want to blow your crew's mind, ask the FAs to ask the captain what the holdover time is for freezing rain as opposed to light freezing rain?
Feb 2, 2022, 8:12 pm
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And meanwhile another aircraft on frequency is subtly lobbying them to change the weather report from FZRA to -FZRA!
Feb 2, 2022, 8:58 pm
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Nah Glenlivet 12 . Get your moneys worth. I’m impressed how you navigated your trip and rerouted. I would never put that time and stress into something like this and just got to Milan whenever I got to Milan. 🤷🏻♂️
Feb 2, 2022, 8:59 pm
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This all sounds like way more trouble than it is worth....just to spend 2 nights in Milan in the winter. Is there some burning reason that you must do this (other than you found a cheap fare) when so much can go wrong and it is such a hassle. I must have missed that part or I am missing something.
good luck.
good luck.
Feb 3, 2022, 4:30 am
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I went to bed assuming the flight would cancel. I'm quite surprised to see that it will be arriving in ~20 minutes:
AA36 (AAL36) American Airlines Flight Tracking and History 02-Feb-2022 (KDFW-MAD / LEMD) - FlightAware
AA36 (AAL36) American Airlines Flight Tracking and History 02-Feb-2022 (KDFW-MAD / LEMD) - FlightAware
Feb 3, 2022, 6:05 am
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We arrived 90 minutes late. Let me tell you connecting at this god AWFUL airport is no walk in the park. I think I landed in Leon--took a train to the main terminal and went through security and took another train to M. No signage and no one to help for questions--no one. When I finally got to M 45 minutes later I found a human that speaks english only to tell me the lounge is back at the main terminal. I had to get back on the train, pass security a second time and spend 30 minutes looking for this lounge. How can DFW, an airport that does XX the amount of traffic this airport does be so logically planned compared to this airport. I was walking around looking like Ken Kettle who flies once a year on my hard earned dollar to fly NK to MIA. 
I have two and half hours for my connection on faux J class Iberia. I think the satellite terminal is in another time zone...
The flight was fine but the flight attendant was pretty much nasty and looked miserable. Every question was curt. An hour out she started her witch hunt for the headphones and I pretended to be asleep so I know she would have the satisfaction of ripping them off my head so at the last second I opened my eyes and said "HOLA!". She wasn't amused, nor was I.
Food was good, chicken breast with sweet potato mash and green beans. The salad was all lettuce, horrible . The nuts that came with my first two of five Tito's were: cold, pressed together, mushy, and crumbled.
Other than that I'm in a good mood.
I have two and half hours for my connection on faux J class Iberia. I think the satellite terminal is in another time zone...
The flight was fine but the flight attendant was pretty much nasty and looked miserable. Every question was curt. An hour out she started her witch hunt for the headphones and I pretended to be asleep so I know she would have the satisfaction of ripping them off my head so at the last second I opened my eyes and said "HOLA!". She wasn't amused, nor was I.
Food was good, chicken breast with sweet potato mash and green beans. The salad was all lettuce, horrible . The nuts that came with my first two of five Tito's were: cold, pressed together, mushy, and crumbled.
Other than that I'm in a good mood.
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Feb 3, 2022, 9:09 am
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Getting ready to head to Milan. While boarding there was an elderly man screaming in Italian to the guy who wheeled him on. This guy who wheeled him on spoke no Italian only Spanish. I only know this as I asked the man I’m front of me what the hell is going on.
Anyway here is the bulkhead for row 1. I’m on a 321. Speaking of airbus one would be hard pressed to find any Boeing aircraft around this airport. BA is storing some Belugas on one side of the airport.
Anyway here is the bulkhead for row 1. I’m on a 321. Speaking of airbus one would be hard pressed to find any Boeing aircraft around this airport. BA is storing some Belugas on one side of the airport.
Feb 3, 2022, 11:01 am
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We arrived 90 minutes late. Let me tell you connecting at this god AWFUL airport is no walk in the park. I think I landed in Leon--took a train to the main terminal and went through security and took another train to M. No signage and no one to help for questions--no one. When I finally got to M 45 minutes later I found a human that speaks english only to tell me the lounge is back at the main terminal. I had to get back on the train, pass security a second time and spend 30 minutes looking for this lounge. How can DFW, an airport that does XX the amount of traffic this airport does be so logically planned compared to this cluster F of a crap airport. I was walking around looking like Ken Kettle who flies once a year on my hard earned dollar to fly NK to MIA.
I have two and half hours for my connection on faux J class Iberia. I think the satellite terminal is in another time zone...
The flight was fine but the flight attendant was pretty much nasty and looked miserable. Every question was curt. An hour out she started her witch hunt for the headphones and I pretended to be asleep so I know she would have the satisfaction of ripping them off my head so at the last second I opened my eyes and said "HOLA!". She wasn't amused, nor was I.
Food was good, chicken breast with sweet potato mash and green beans. The salad was all lettuce, horrible . The nuts that came with my first two of five Tito's were: cold, pressed together, mushy, and crumbled.
Other than that I'm in a good mood.
I have two and half hours for my connection on faux J class Iberia. I think the satellite terminal is in another time zone...
The flight was fine but the flight attendant was pretty much nasty and looked miserable. Every question was curt. An hour out she started her witch hunt for the headphones and I pretended to be asleep so I know she would have the satisfaction of ripping them off my head so at the last second I opened my eyes and said "HOLA!". She wasn't amused, nor was I.
Food was good, chicken breast with sweet potato mash and green beans. The salad was all lettuce, horrible . The nuts that came with my first two of five Tito's were: cold, pressed together, mushy, and crumbled.
Other than that I'm in a good mood.
If you were connecting to M gates, the M gates are in the same building as Terminal 4 South.
So something got lost in translation there as you did not need to take any train. You just needed to go one level down to the M gates.
As far as the lounge, for European/schengen destinations, you needed to go to the main Terminal 4 to the "DALI" lounge, yes with the train. It is very quick and the Lounge is 4 levels up from the train station.
I like MAD airport better than LHR. Once you get to know it you may end up liking it too.
