How is a return flight valued for changes?
Mar 4, 2021, 9:01 pm
#31
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I've seen both set of fare rules. You have to go to the fare rule the ticket is issued against to see if it reprice with current fares in effect on historical especially if travel has not begun.
Mar 4, 2021, 9:03 pm
#32
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That doesn't allow change of outbound flight without a fare difference - only continuing/return flights - what was the fare/route/date for that example ? need to see what it says about changing outbound - also what it says about making changes after outbound flown
I used a domestic fare as an example as that seems to be the most common use - also there is a lot of insularity in the forum ime that only tends to consider ex-US fares
Given that US domestic fares seem to be generally consistent in application of rules, I didn't go checking others
checking a couple of ex-UK fares, in the changes section it states
whcih again uses historical fares once the outbound sector is flown - this seems to be no change
I used a domestic fare as an example as that seems to be the most common use - also there is a lot of insularity in the forum ime that only tends to consider ex-US fares
Given that US domestic fares seem to be generally consistent in application of rules, I didn't go checking others
checking a couple of ex-UK fares, in the changes section it states
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CALCULATION FOR REISSUES //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE// THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED. OR REPRICE THE ITINERARY USING THE SAME FARE BASIS CODES AND RULES AS THOSE IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUANCE FOR UNCHANGED OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENTS AND USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF NEW TICKET ISSUANCE FOR ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. -------------------------------------------------- //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE// THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
whcih again uses historical fares once the outbound sector is flown - this seems to be no change
Last edited by Dave Noble; Mar 4, 2021 at 9:12 pm
Mar 4, 2021, 9:05 pm
#33
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Here's a fare rule from ~18 months ago on a domestic trip that lets you change the return leg of a round trip PRIOR to flying the outbound with no fare difference (but with a change fee). This seems to have disappeared from what you quoted, although I haven't read the full fare rules, and they are often long and confusing and not formatted for readability.
II. PRIOR TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY - CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE IS NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR STOPOVERS. THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE LOWEST SOLUTION WILL APPLY.
II. PRIOR TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY - CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE IS NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR STOPOVERS. THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE LOWEST SOLUTION WILL APPLY.
--- A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE SAME FARES AS TICKETED. REPRICE THE ITINERARY USING THE SAME FARE BASIS CODE/ SAME FARE LEVEL/ SAME RULES AS TICKETED/ THAT IS/ THOSE IN EFFECT AT THE TIME THE ORIGINAL TICKET WAS SOLD.
1.NO CHANGE IS PERMITTED TO STOPOVER/ THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT OR FARE BREAKS.
2.THE TICKETED FARE BASIS CODE/ SAME RULE MUST BE USED AS THE REPLACEMENT FARE FOR THE REVISED FARE COMPONENT ON THE NEW TICKET.
3.FULLY FLOWN ONE-WAY FARE MUST NOT BE REPRICED AS A HALF ROUND-TRIP FARE.
4.NEW FARE MUST BE EQUAL TO THE PREVIOUS FARE. COMPARE BASE FARE VALUES FOR THE REVISED FARE COMPONENT TO THAT OF THE TICKETED FARE COMPONENT.
5.ALL RULE/BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS MUST BE MET.
6.FLIGHT SPECIFIC FARES MUST REMAIN WITHIN THE TIMES SPECIFIED FOR THAT FARE.
7.ADVANCE RESERVATION REQUIREMENTS ARE MEASURED FROM THE REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT.
8.SERVICE CHARGE APPLIES. ---
2.THE TICKETED FARE BASIS CODE/ SAME RULE MUST BE USED AS THE REPLACEMENT FARE FOR THE REVISED FARE COMPONENT ON THE NEW TICKET.
3.FULLY FLOWN ONE-WAY FARE MUST NOT BE REPRICED AS A HALF ROUND-TRIP FARE.
4.NEW FARE MUST BE EQUAL TO THE PREVIOUS FARE. COMPARE BASE FARE VALUES FOR THE REVISED FARE COMPONENT TO THAT OF THE TICKETED FARE COMPONENT.
5.ALL RULE/BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS MUST BE MET.
6.FLIGHT SPECIFIC FARES MUST REMAIN WITHIN THE TIMES SPECIFIED FOR THAT FARE.
7.ADVANCE RESERVATION REQUIREMENTS ARE MEASURED FROM THE REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT.
8.SERVICE CHARGE APPLIES. ---
The fare rules are long and confusing as you point out, and in each case, AA offers several approaches to refaring the new itinerary and will permit use of the cheapest end result.
Last edited by NYC Flyer; Mar 4, 2021 at 9:10 pm Reason: clarification