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AA718 LGA to MIA (737 MAX 8) four hour delay due to ATC COVID cleaning (To merge)

AA718 LGA to MIA (737 MAX 8) four hour delay due to ATC COVID cleaning (To merge)

Old Jan 4, 21, 4:35 pm
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AA718 LGA to MIA (737 MAX 8) four hour delay due to ATC COVID cleaning (To merge)

AA718 LGA to MIA has a four hour delay. I'm guessing maintenance since weather does not appear to be a problem. This is the end of the first week American returned the MAX to service. I'm wondering how big of an issue maintenance will be on aircraft that were setting idle for months and months. I know they were maintained but that's not the same as flying hours.
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Old Jan 4, 21, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by TEBraniff View Post
AA718 LGA to MIA has a four hour delay. I'm guessing maintenance since weather does not appear to be a problem. This is the end of the first week American returned the MAX to service. I'm wondering how big of an issue maintenance will be on aircraft that were setting idle for months and months. I know they were maintained but that's not the same as flying hours.
I looked AA718 up on flightaware and found ...

Miami Intl is experiencing delays

  • all inbound flights being held at their origin until Monday at 06:30PM EST due to traffic volume
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL718
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Old Jan 4, 21, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by TEBraniff View Post
AA718 LGA to MIA has a four hour delay. I'm guessing maintenance since weather does not appear to be a problem. This is the end of the first week American returned the MAX to service. I'm wondering how big of an issue maintenance will be on aircraft that were setting idle for months and months. I know they were maintained but that's not the same as flying hours.
There were multiple ground stops issued for MIA, PBI, TPA, FLL, MCO that ended / were cancelled around an hour ago looking like there were ATC staffing issues (perhaps CV-19?).

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Old Jan 4, 21, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by DELee View Post
There were multiple ground stops issued for MIA, PBI, TPA, FLL, MCO that ended / were cancelled around an hour ago looking like there were ATC staffing issues (perhaps CV-19?).

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Sounds similar to the ground stops that hit central Texas a couple of days ago.
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Originally Posted by DELee View Post
There were multiple ground stops issued for MIA, PBI, TPA, FLL, MCO that ended / were cancelled around an hour ago looking like there were ATC staffing issues (perhaps CV-19?).

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Confirming CV-19 impact:

ZJX CONTINUES WITH INITIATIVES FOR AIRCRAFT DELAYED FROM COVID CLEANING,
POSSIBLE DEPARTURE DELAYS DEPARTING SOUTH FLORIDA DUE TO ZJX RESTRICTIONS.
Originally Posted by cheltzel View Post
Sounds similar to the ground stops that hit central Texas a couple of days ago.
Would need to see the date(s).

Getting back to the thread topic, it looks like the ATC CV-19 cleaning is the reason why this afternoon/evening flights into/out of MIA specifically were impacted, not because the A/C was a MAX or a maintenance issue.

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p.s. FWIW, looks like additional ground stop into DFW for the next hour because of other CV-19 impacts (as well as diversion recovery underway for both DFW and DAL):

CUSTOMERS CAN EXPECT POSSIBLE ARRIVAL HOLDING INTO THE D10 TRACON
METROPLEX DUE TO COVID CLEANING OPERATIONAL TRANSFER. HOLDING IS
EXPECTED UNTIL 0230Z WITH DELAYS IN EXCESS OF 30 MINUTES.

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Yes, the Jacksonville, FL en route center (ZJX) was closed for several hours (ATC-0) for COVID cleaning. Flights were being routed west and far east over the water where possible and where it could be done. ZAB is also expected to take a hit tonight and tomorrow night.

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
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Here's a map of the ZJX AOR so you know how big of an effect this was:

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Originally Posted by cheltzel View Post
Sounds similar to the ground stops that hit central Texas a couple of days ago.
you mean north texas
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Originally Posted by TEBraniff View Post
AA718 LGA to MIA has a four hour delay. I'm guessing maintenance since weather does not appear to be a problem. This is the end of the first week American returned the MAX to service. I'm wondering how big of an issue maintenance will be on aircraft that were setting idle for months and months. I know they were maintained but that's not the same as flying hours.
There were extensive procedures put in place to get the MAX up and safely flying after they had been parked. As others have noted, this delay was not due to an MX or WX issue.

On a side note, my fiancé is a captain on the MAX, and feels very comfortable with the changes made, and the safety of the airplane itself.
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Old Jan 7, 21, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by dallaspopo View Post
you mean north texas
Yes I was caught in that. I did a connection in DFW because it would have gotten me in much sooner than the direct flight. Between the diversion to IAH and the ground stop it was 13 hours getting to PHX. Strong weather also made operations a mess.
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Originally Posted by TEBraniff View Post
AA718 LGA to MIA has a four hour delay. I'm guessing maintenance since weather does not appear to be a problem. This is the end of the first week American returned the MAX to service. I'm wondering how big of an issue maintenance will be on aircraft that were setting idle for months and months. I know they were maintained but that's not the same as flying hours.
There’s an extensive process required to “de-mothball” aircraft and restoration to service that includes, in this case, the modifications required by the FAA, inspection, maintenance and test flight.
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