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AA makes good on throwing off passenger for not wearing mask

AA makes good on throwing off passenger for not wearing mask

Old Oct 23, 20, 8:37 am
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AA makes good on throwing off passenger for not wearing mask

AA delayed Flight #2248 from DFW to SFO this past Tuesday (October 20 2020), returning to the gate to throw off a passenger they said wasn't wearing a mask (she had on a white mask that a flight attendant had given her as she was leaving the plane). This was an odd woman who had been called out by a gate agent for sitting in First Class. She told him that someone was sitting in her seat in Coach so she moved up front and helped herself to an empty seat in First. He took her back to coach and that seemed to be the end of it.

But 15 or 20 minutes in the trek to get to the runway, the pilot turned around to return to the gate. The First Class FA told us that we were returning to the gate, but don't worry, it's not a mechanical so it shouldn't be long. Talking among themselves, they said we were going back because a passenger refused to wear a mask (earlier one of the flight attendants had grabbed a white mask from the galley and headed back into coach with it). The captain got on the PA and said we were going back to the gate to "accommodate a passenger"...he'd tell us more later (he didn't). The First Class skofflaw headed up to the front door, grabbing her bag out of the First Class overhead and willingly left. By the time we finally hit the sky we were an hour late from this drama, the captain making up 15 minutes in flight so we only landed 45 minutes late in San Francisco...

So take that, anyone else who refuses to wear a mask...
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Old Oct 23, 20, 9:41 am
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Is there a feminine version of the word tool?
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Old Oct 23, 20, 11:16 am
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Is there a feminine version of the word tool?
Tool is gender neutral. It is an unfortunate state of being.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 11:48 am
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There are multiple reports of roughly the same on not only AA, but other US carriers as well. It seems clear that the demographic AA cares about, cares a lot about and supports its mask policy. It's also quite easy to understand as there are no exceptions.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 12:40 pm
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It's fine to not let a person board if they are not going to wear a mask. But to delay a plane-full of passengers an hour? And what happens if someone takes their mask off in flight? Are you going to return to DFW and throw them off? Make an emergency landing on the way to SFO and throw them off?
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Old Oct 23, 20, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by BobOscar View Post
It's fine to not let a person board if they are not going to wear a mask. But to delay a plane-full of passengers an hour? And what happens if someone takes their mask off in flight? Are you going to return to DFW and throw them off? Make an emergency landing on the way to SFO and throw them off?
This sets the precedent that you will be kicked off. If you don't then it sets the precedent that masks are enforced only at boarding, feel free to take them off after the door closes.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 1:38 pm
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Once in the air when it's almost certainly going to take more than 15 minutes (and thus the damage, if there is damage, is done, to get the idiot off the aircraft, there is little reason for the Captain to turn the flight around although it's the Captain's discretion.

What does seem to be clear on AA, as well as at least the other legacies is that once booted, one is banned as well. The only carrier for which I've seen transparent reporting is DL. It had banned 240 people as of about 2 weeks ago.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 2:10 pm
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I've seen the GAs kick off someone that refused to put his mask on. I tend to doubt, and I hope, that a flight would not get diverted for a non mask wearer unless the person is causing a major ruckus otherwise.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by MiamiAirport Formerly NY George View Post
I've seen the GAs kick off someone that refused to put his mask on. I tend to doubt, and I hope, that a flight would not get diverted for a non mask wearer unless the person is causing a major ruckus otherwise.
Passengers forced to sit next to the non-mask-wearer might feel otherwise.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
Passengers forced to sit next to the non-mask-wearer might feel otherwise.
Oh, how I long for the days of the old 727s, where the pilot could drop some flaps, throttle back, get real slow, and open the tail stairway. Give those maskless idiots a nice DB Cooper ride and then fly on to your destination, with minimal delay.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by BobOscar View Post
It's fine to not let a person board if they are not going to wear a mask. But to delay a plane-full of passengers an hour? And what happens if someone takes their mask off in flight? Are you going to return to DFW and throw them off? Make an emergency landing on the way to SFO and throw them off?
Nah, shove them in the lav for the duration of the flight.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by tkelvin69 View Post
Nah, shove them in the lav for the duration of the flight.
Too bad the MAX lavs aren't available for that right now.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 8:22 pm
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I'll say it before and I'll say it again (and AA and DL's CEO's have said it too recently) tickets are too cheap.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by BobOscar View Post
And what happens if someone takes their mask off in flight? Are you going to return to DFW and throw them off? Make an emergency landing on the way to SFO and throw them off?
Other airlines have called the police to meet the unruly passenger(s) upon deplaning at the arrival airport.
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Old Oct 23, 20, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius View Post
This sets the precedent that you will be kicked off. If you don't then it sets the precedent that masks are enforced only at boarding, feel free to take them off after the door closes.
Allowing it would also set the precedent that you don't have to follow crewmember instructions.
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