How to comfort a loved one losing status?
My girlfriend, an eight year EXP, dropped to PLT last year, and will be no status this coming year. (She quit her corporate job in 2018 to start her own business). She's going on a girl's trip to LAS in the morning, and she asked me today why her upgrade hadn't cleared. I don't know how to break it to her, that, Babe, it isn't going to. :D
We pay for F or J when traveling together, but she, oddly, is ok going in Y alone. IOW, she won't pay for F for herself, but she was so spoiled by EXP, she got used to thinking she was gonna get upgraded. I'm laughing on the inside, but in the interest of maintaining the peace, I'm crying for her pain on the outside. Any advice, Flyertalkers? |
Bummer... but sounds like she realizes some of the perks (comp upgrade 99% of the time) aren't currently what they were a decade ago.
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Originally Posted by NotDuncan
(Post 32010828)
My girlfriend, an eight year EXP, dropped to PLT last year, and will be no status this coming year. (She quit her corporate job in 2018 to start her own business). She's going on a girl's trip to LAS in the morning, and she asked me today why her upgrade hadn't cleared. I don't know how to break it to her, that, Babe, it isn't going to. :D
We pay for F or J when traveling together, but she, oddly, is ok going in Y alone. IOW, she won't pay for F for herself, but she was so spoiled by EXP, she got used to thinking she was gonna get upgraded. I'm laughing on the inside, but in the interest of maintaining the peace, I'm crying for her pain on the outside. Any advice, Flyertalkers? Alas, that is the only piece of good news I have for her. |
It’s....it ain’t easy. I also once lost status. I went from being Chairman’s Preferred to..just nothing. Just a Dividend Miles member. The pain is real. It hurts man, when you board and you have to sit behind the curtain instead of in front of it. Walking past 1st class, hating each pax more then the last. Last week, Mini bottles of gin. This week..Dasani Sparkle. You go to parties and every story is....I USED to have status, I used to fly a lot, I used to be a big deal. You’re at the airport, thinking people in the pre✅ line will care that you USED to be Elite. But they don’t. They don’t care that you’ve been there & know what you’re talking about..not at the gate, not at the counter, nowhere. It’s lonely and cruel and cold.
This is a Mars/Venus thing. Don’t try to fix it...just listen and acknowledge like you have a bag of F to give... Fortunately, I’m platinum now and will be EXP by the fall, where I won’t have to be bothered with such people and interface with the great unwashed... |
Originally Posted by rumboj
(Post 32011083)
If the trip is indeed in January, she is still
Alas, that is the only piece of good news I have for her. |
Being a free agent one can shop for the best deal. If it bothers her that she has no status and she wants at least Plat, then tell her to buy a CX PE mileage run when the next NA sale comes round. I am dropping from Plat to nothing in a few days, but I got lots out of it on other One world carriers while it lasted.
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I'd say this unless you are a CK or at least a mid level spend EXP prepare to sit in the back, a lot. I'm a mid spend PP with 3 flights on Saturday, including one in the evening, and right now it doesn't look like I will be sitting up front on any of them. It's coming down to if you really want F and not in one of the aforementioned groups, pay for F.
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sounds like she is fine letting op pay for F or J, but not yet comfortable asking op to pay for a solo flight.
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She could check if she has a buy back offer to keep PLT.
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Originally Posted by Austin787
(Post 32012139)
She could check if she has a buy back offer to keep PLT.
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Originally Posted by NotDuncan
(Post 32010828)
and she asked me today why her upgrade hadn't cleared. I don't know how to break it to her, that, Babe, it isn't going to. :D
Seriously, its time to tell her that the upgrade fairy is not real and explain where the upgrades come from...:p |
Originally Posted by joeyE
(Post 32011126)
It’s....it ain’t easy. I also once lost status. I went from being Chairman’s Preferred to..just nothing. Just a Dividend Miles member. The pain is real. It hurts man, when you board and you have to sit behind the curtain instead of in front of it. Walking past 1st class, hating each pax more then the last. Last week, Mini bottles of gin. This week..Dasani Sparkle. You go to parties and every story is....I USED to have status, I used to fly a lot, I used to be a big deal. You’re at the airport, thinking people in the pre✅ line will care that you USED to be Elite. But they don’t. They don’t care that you’ve been there & know what you’re talking about..not at the gate, not at the counter, nowhere. It’s lonely and cruel and cold.
This is a Mars/Venus thing. Don’t try to fix it...just listen and acknowledge like you have a bag of F to give... Fortunately, I’m platinum now and will be EXP by the fall, where I won’t have to be bothered with such people and interface with the great unwashed... |
Been there.
IT IS OK. Actually, it is liberating as... - You only fly when you have to (no more chasing status or having spreadsheets tracking EQMs EQDs) - Take the most convenient flights (not the AA or OW Flight) - Less time in the air, more time at home with loved ones. Anybody values that? - Experience new aircraft, hubs, crews - Read the editorials by Munoz or Bastian on "Hemispheres" or "Sky" :p |
Well.... you are in a pickle..I see you have status for life time...
oh the way this would probably work, is that let her get a few flights under her belt.. she may or may not, be happy, I think just reminding her that the flights are not really long. and that there are lots and lots of passenger that fly coach all the time.. Heck even EXP have to fly coach sometimes.. (me) ok, at this she will probably take it out on you little, however, she might remember the days was she was building to EXP, and that may help. Good luck |
Other approaches include focusing on the positive, like that she still has free MCE and bag until the 31st...:p
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A more radical approach is to test the strength of the relationship but telling her the truth, if it survives it she is a keeper...:)
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As other posters have said above, there’s a lot of upside to being self employed and not beholden to corporate travel people. I left my cushy corporate job 15 years ago, losing all benefits including top status with DL and US. Long story short, I just made CK last month after being EXP for about four years. These days I select all my own itineraries, travel dates, ground transportation options etc without being tied down to some silly corporate contract or policy. And the best part, it’s all tax deductible. Granted, it took a decade before I could see the light at the end of the tunnel but I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
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Am the only one thinking the obvious - tell her to grow up and come back for support when she has a real problem? I mean, I know we come here to discuss very first world problems, but needing to be comforted because you lost status with an airline?
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Originally Posted by DCAFly
(Post 32012500)
Am the only one thinking the obvious - tell her to grow up and come back for support when she has a real problem? I mean, I know we come here to discuss very first world problems, but needing to be comforted because you lost status with an airline?
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Did you check the online/in app buy up offers? If it’s reasonable, go for it. Also you could check if there’s C inventory and use a mileage upgrade or possibly a bxp1
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With all these handles I have no idea how many women have posted on this thread so far. Now, You did ask so I will tell you exactly what to do - but it will not be cheap. If you really love her - you will buy her a First Class ticket. Tell her that this is a one off - but you cannot bear to see her pain. It is entirely possible that she will not accept this, but she will know what you did and she will adore you for your thoughtfulness, If she's not worth the price of a First Class ticket, then frankly should you be bothering with her?
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
(Post 32012698)
With all these handles I have no idea how many women have posted on this thread so far. Now, You did ask so I will tell you exactly what to do - but it will not be cheap. If you really love her - you will buy her a First Class ticket. Tell her that this is a one off - but you cannot bear to see her pain. It is entirely possible that she will not accept this, but she will know what you did and she will adore you for your thoughtfulness, If she's not worth the price of a First Class ticket, then frankly should you be bothering with her?
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
(Post 32012698)
With all these handles I have no idea how many women have posted on this thread so far. Now, You did ask so I will tell you exactly what to do - but it will not be cheap. If you really love her - you will buy her a First Class ticket. Tell her that this is a one off - but you cannot bear to see her pain. It is entirely possible that she will not accept this, but she will know what you did and she will adore you for your thoughtfulness, If she's not worth the price of a First Class ticket, then frankly should you be bothering with her?
For those who seem humor impaired, (not you, Pucci), I’d like to point out that tongue was planted firmly in cheek during the writing of the op. My darling girl called a little while ago to say she’d arrived, sans upgrade but otherwise intact. |
Originally Posted by carlosdca
(Post 32012253)
Been there.
IT IS OK. Actually, it is liberating as... - You only fly when you have to (no more chasing status or having spreadsheets tracking EQMs EQDs) - Take the most convenient flights (not the AA or OW Flight) - Less time in the air, more time at home with loved ones. Anybody values that? - Experience new aircraft, hubs, crews - Read the editorials by Munoz or Bastian on "Hemispheres" or "Sky" :p Now I like to read the new prensa when I use a different airline. Senor Pedro's editorial is more functional and with less hype than the gringo carriers UA AA and DL. Tambien the CM magazine has more depth - in comparison - to otras prensas del vuelos. The UA propaganda I read for many years and it is dull and not engaging. A3 has nice inflight prensa with soooo many pictures of every small Greek island which they will only serve only seasonally in Q400 for 800E each way but they looks good and makes me wannnt to go. Even without novio/a! LOL! Buuut a great one was Stelios with his EasyRead. I laughed when I saw his pictures in the orange jumpsuit with EZ workers picketing the EU parliament years ago. Mucho mejor que la prensa del vuelo de AA! LOL! I would love if Senor MOL would write in a more direct way because his editorial would be the best but there is no such prensa on FR. Lamentos! |
Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
(Post 32012698)
With all these handles I have no idea how many women have posted on this thread so far. Now, You did ask so I will tell you exactly what to do - but it will not be cheap. If you really love her - you will buy her a First Class ticket. Tell her that this is a one off - but you cannot bear to see her pain. It is entirely possible that she will not accept this, but she will know what you did and she will adore you for your thoughtfulness, If she's not worth the price of a First Class ticket, then frankly should you be bothering with her?
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I'll just note that AA Platinums (and, indeed, all oneworld Sapphires and Emeralds) can select a Main Cabin Extra seat at no extra charge at time of booking on AA. Extra legroom seats; free alcohol; and dedicated overhead bins. No, it's not First Class, and there will not be a free meal, but for domestic travel, MCE is still significantly better than "regular" Coach.
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Originally Posted by NotDuncan
(Post 32012577)
:rolleyes: Someone's sarcasm meter isn't working today.
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Originally Posted by NotDuncan
(Post 32012829)
Very sound advice, Pucci, and I would have done just that, except that she planned and booked this trip on her own, no input from me required or requested.
For those who seem humor impaired, (not you, Pucci), I’d like to point out that tongue was planted firmly in cheek during the writing of the op. My darling girl called a little while ago to say she’d arrived, sans upgrade but otherwise intact. Years ago I wrote about some woman who was not upgraded on some ridiculously short flight of less than an hour. As memory serves the exhibition that she made of herself surpassed wonder and I gather than she went into cardiac arrest - or so she claimed. The best was that her friend (why would anyone bother?) was upgraded and practically stepped over the woman prostrate in the gate area and just boarded the aircraft. Madness lies at the upgrade stage. |
Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
(Post 32012698)
With all these handles I have no idea how many women have posted on this thread so far. Now, You did ask so I will tell you exactly what to do - but it will not be cheap. If you really love her - you will buy her a First Class ticket. Tell her that this is a one off - but you cannot bear to see her pain. It is entirely possible that she will not accept this, but she will know what you did and she will adore you for your thoughtfulness, If she's not worth the price of a First Class ticket, then frankly should you be bothering with her?
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Originally Posted by ReinaDeLaSelva
(Post 32012864)
Senora, I have a different theory. AA estatus platino is not worth fighting for. Also, OP can test his novia. I propose to him do nothing and see how sheee reponds to flying in Y. If hombre has real cojones he will do truly special things for her and not waste money on this tinsel and send such signal to her. It is not exciting to me to see a boy who is a not really a man but is so owned by all woman in such ways in total. Also, we must think in practical... it is too expensive to do this if we have more than one novio/a, lol!
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It's no fun moving backwards on the ladder. I have done it many times in life, both in AA status and financially.
I once was CK and DH and I still look wistfully at the velvet rope at the Flagship Check-In while we wait in the Pre-Check lane. Sigh. But it also prompts fond memories. Remember when the CK ambassador materialized out of nowhere to pre-board us (I swear she was hiding in the podium)? And escorted us on the plane with her iPad and asked a First Class passenger to move so that we could sit together? So now---we mostly pay to fly business/first or use miles to purchase business/first. If we don't----we will be staring longingly at the curtain while sitting in MCE. Missing PDB, smelling warm nuts, meals and hearing the tinkling of real glass for the cocktails. My recommendation would be the gift of a bunch of 500-mile upgrades so she can upgrade when she chooses. |
Originally Posted by mctaste
(Post 32013079)
i prefer women who help themselves but to each their own. unsurprising that a woman suggests showering her in free first class tickets...
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Originally Posted by AA_ORDlady
(Post 32013088)
It's no fun moving backwards on the ladder. I have done it many times in life, both in AA status and financially.
I once was CK and DH and I still look wistfully at the velvet rope at the Flagship Check-In while we wait in the Pre-Check lane. Sigh. But it also prompts fond memories. Remember when the CK ambassador materialized out of nowhere to pre-board us (I swear she was hiding in the podium)? And escorted us on the plane with her iPad and asked a First Class passenger to move so that we could sit together? So now---we mostly pay to fly business/first or use miles to purchase business/first. If we don't----we will be staring longingly at the curtain while sitting in MCE. Missing PDB, smelling warm nuts, meals and hearing the tinkling of real glass for the cocktails. My recommendation would be the gift of a bunch of 500-mile upgrades so she can upgrade when she chooses. |
Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
(Post 32013089)
My Dear your idea of showering is not mine - we are talking about one round trip ticket. I suppose that in similar vein it is unsurprising that a man does not get it.
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Originally Posted by mctaste
(Post 32013507)
op has been buying F and J tickets historically, so it has been a lifetime of golden showers.
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Originally Posted by NotDuncan
(Post 32010828)
...she asked me today why her upgrade hadn't cleared. I don't know how to break it to her, that, Babe, it isn't going to. :D
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Originally Posted by NotDuncan
(Post 32010828)
My girlfriend, an eight year EXP, dropped to PLT last year, and will be no status this coming year. (She quit her corporate job in 2018 to start her own business). She's going on a girl's trip to LAS in the morning, and she asked me today why her upgrade hadn't cleared. I don't know how to break it to her, that, Babe, it isn't going to. :D
We pay for F or J when traveling together, but she, oddly, is ok going in Y alone. IOW, she won't pay for F for herself, but she was so spoiled by EXP, she got used to thinking she was gonna get upgraded. I'm laughing on the inside, but in the interest of maintaining the peace, I'm crying for her pain on the outside. Any advice, Flyertalkers? |
Originally Posted by dickinson
(Post 32013682)
I assume you know the definition of that term....;)
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I understand her pain. I lose EXP after tomorrow...it has been nice...got to use all SWU. Anyway, i will just revert to paid F/J until my next comp PLT with challenge up to EXP.....never fear true Elites....i dont fly that much relative to you so im not "stealing" your upgrades!
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
(Post 32013081)
Querida Senora - your point of view intrigues me. I have never ever subscribed to running more than one man at a time and one husband if more that enough. He has learnt over the years that I will always let him have the least word in any discussion or argument - "Yes Dear". Whilst him manhood is in no doubt, had he not done exactly as I advised the OP (whether I would have accepted or not is another matter), otherwise her knows that his cujones would be served up to him on a plate wtih a mustard relish.
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