What are the newest aircraft that AA is currently taking delivery of?
Jan 25, 2020, 4:32 pm
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Also, the Super Diamond is almost an Off-The-Shelf design, is already certified for 787, and has very few complaints.
I don’t see why AA would go back to the “Concept D” for the new planes.
Jan 25, 2020, 5:38 pm
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Pretty sure they are going to be Super Diamond. The contract for “Concept D” seats was cancelled during the retrofit for 772s. They finished those off with the Super Diamond. Zodiac/Safran wouldn’t have produced any of those seats in substantial volume in almost 4 years.
Also, the Super Diamond is almost an Off-The-Shelf design, is already certified for 787, and has very few complaints.
I don’t see why AA would go back to the “Concept D” for the new planes.
Also, the Super Diamond is almost an Off-The-Shelf design, is already certified for 787, and has very few complaints.
I don’t see why AA would go back to the “Concept D” for the new planes.
Jan 25, 2020, 6:43 pm
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Yea I don’t recall seeing anything official or even in the blogs but I could have missed something.
Jan 25, 2020, 9:45 pm
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We will probably have to wait until the first ones are delivered to find out, unless they do a new config. With Delta One and Polaris now flying, AA’s seats are no longer superior. I don’t think a new seat will happen, but it’s possible.
Jan 25, 2020, 9:54 pm
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The seat to be used in the second tranche of 788s has been discussed previously, and I’m pretty sure it was verified as the Rockwell Collins Super Diamond. Zodiac was unable to fulfill contractual obligations and iirc AA sued. The chance of the Concept D Business Suite being added to any AA aircraft, given 788s were sitting in the deserts awaiting seats and 772s were backlogged, makes it unlikely AA will go back to those even if Safran did take over Zodiac in 2018, IMO.
Jan 27, 2020, 12:24 pm
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These new deliveries are a separate order than what’s been delivered so far. I don’t believe these were even options from the first order.
We will probably have to wait until the first ones are delivered to find out, unless they do a new config. With Delta One and Polaris now flying, AA’s seats are no longer superior. I don’t think a new seat will happen, but it’s possible.
We will probably have to wait until the first ones are delivered to find out, unless they do a new config. With Delta One and Polaris now flying, AA’s seats are no longer superior. I don’t think a new seat will happen, but it’s possible.
The seat to be used in the second tranche of 788s has been discussed previously, and I’m pretty sure it was verified as the Rockwell Collins Super Diamond. Zodiac was unable to fulfill contractual obligations and iirc AA sued. The chance of the Concept D Business Suite being added to any AA aircraft, given 788s were sitting in the deserts awaiting seats and 772s were backlogged, makes it unlikely AA will go back to those even if Safran did take over Zodiac in 2018, IMO.
Feb 24, 2020, 12:15 am
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For me the biggest issue is the table does not store and provides for a very cramped sleeping position. In that respect the 788 current seats are superior. Abandoning the backwards seats and ditching the wobble will be bonuses though.
Feb 24, 2020, 12:45 am
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Feb 24, 2020, 6:41 am
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The seat to be used in the second tranche of 788s has been discussed previously, and I’m pretty sure it was verified as the Rockwell Collins Super Diamond. Zodiac was unable to fulfill contractual obligations and iirc AA sued. The chance of the Concept D Business Suite being added to any AA aircraft, given 788s were sitting in the deserts awaiting seats and 772s were backlogged, makes it unlikely AA will go back to those even if Safran did take over Zodiac in 2018, IMO.
What's the delivery schedule for the new 788's?
Presumably they'll simply be intermixed with the existing, leading to a similar situation as with the 772's ("Which version will I have today?")?
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Feb 24, 2020, 7:09 am
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China? Or just seasonal readjusting. Last couple of weeks there's been a 772 running DFW-LAX-DFW instead of the usual 738/321. If I remember, this seems to happen during spring break in past years.
Feb 24, 2020, 8:25 am
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No, not China, switch to 773 HND was conceived last fall:
NRT on the other hand, was very recent:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...2020-time.html
IIRC (and I probably don't) I -think- the HND 773s were coming from S.America (now possibly reversed/ less apparent due to the China situation.)
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Feb 24, 2020, 9:25 am
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The 77W for DFW-HND appears to be coming from MIA-EZE. One of the MIA-EZE flights is on 77W, but starting March 28 (just before DFW-HND starts) both MIA-EZE flights will be 772.