AA136 11 Nov 2019 and the (usual?) MX issues
Nov 12, 2019, 12:50 pm
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AA136 11 Nov 2019 and the (usual?) MX issues
Hi All
Quick recap re/ AA136 LAX to LHR yesterday:
- delay at gate, no FO
- FO arrives 1,5 hrs late, replacement crew
- taxi to runway, stop halfway due to flight controls issue which was earlier fixed but came back
- standing on tarmac for 30min
- another taxi to remote hard stand for 30min
- MX fixed, 3 hours in
- plane needs to refuel
- all done, crew times out though
- left a/c after 4,5 hours, overnight stay
Just wondering, doesn’t look like that they’ve fixed their issues with the unions? Would that be an case for the tarmac comp as I was for 4,5hrs on the plane (I fly mostly in Europe so please excuse if a clear no).
Thanks all
D
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Quick recap re/ AA136 LAX to LHR yesterday:
- delay at gate, no FO
- FO arrives 1,5 hrs late, replacement crew
- taxi to runway, stop halfway due to flight controls issue which was earlier fixed but came back
- standing on tarmac for 30min
- another taxi to remote hard stand for 30min
- MX fixed, 3 hours in
- plane needs to refuel
- all done, crew times out though
- left a/c after 4,5 hours, overnight stay
Just wondering, doesn’t look like that they’ve fixed their issues with the unions? Would that be an case for the tarmac comp as I was for 4,5hrs on the plane (I fly mostly in Europe so please excuse if a clear no).
Thanks all
D
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Last edited by Duck1981; Nov 12, 2019 at 1:02 pm
Nov 12, 2019, 3:09 pm
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Hi All
Quick recap re/ AA136 LAX to LHR yesterday:
- delay at gate, no FO
- FO arrives 1,5 hrs late, replacement crew
- taxi to runway, stop halfway due to flight controls issue which was earlier fixed but came back
- standing on tarmac for 30min
- another taxi to remote hard stand for 30min
- MX fixed, 3 hours in
- plane needs to refuel
- all done, crew times out though
- left a/c after 4,5 hours, overnight stay
Just wondering, doesn’t look like that they’ve fixed their issues with the unions? Would that be an case for the tarmac comp as I was for 4,5hrs on the plane (I fly mostly in Europe so please excuse if a clear no).
Thanks all
D
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Quick recap re/ AA136 LAX to LHR yesterday:
- delay at gate, no FO
- FO arrives 1,5 hrs late, replacement crew
- taxi to runway, stop halfway due to flight controls issue which was earlier fixed but came back
- standing on tarmac for 30min
- another taxi to remote hard stand for 30min
- MX fixed, 3 hours in
- plane needs to refuel
- all done, crew times out though
- left a/c after 4,5 hours, overnight stay
Just wondering, doesn’t look like that they’ve fixed their issues with the unions? Would that be an case for the tarmac comp as I was for 4,5hrs on the plane (I fly mostly in Europe so please excuse if a clear no).
Thanks all
D
-
Nov 13, 2019, 10:45 am
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OP wasn't asking about EU261. So I'm not sure there is a sub-forum for the question. They were asking about tarmac delay rules in the U.S. I don't think the regulation requires any compensation to passengers. The airline may be fined but you won't get anything.
Nov 13, 2019, 11:48 am
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Which shows just how stupid the law is. If you believe that government should interfere in the operations of a business by fining them for shoddy service, why should that money go to the US Treasury as opposed to the actual victims of the airline's incompetence?
Nov 13, 2019, 12:34 pm
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Exactly. Makes no sense to me. A tarmac delay fine doesn't really hurt the airline BUT if they had to compensate the passengers you better believe things would change real quick.
Nov 13, 2019, 1:33 pm
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Hi All
Quick recap re/ AA136 LAX to LHR yesterday:
- delay at gate, no FO
- FO arrives 1,5 hrs late, replacement crew
- taxi to runway, stop halfway due to flight controls issue which was earlier fixed but came back
- standing on tarmac for 30min
- another taxi to remote hard stand for 30min
- MX fixed, 3 hours in
- plane needs to refuel
- all done, crew times out though
- left a/c after 4,5 hours, overnight stay
Just wondering, doesn’t look like that they’ve fixed their issues with the unions? Would that be an case for the tarmac comp as I was for 4,5hrs on the plane (I fly mostly in Europe so please excuse if a clear no).
Thanks all
D
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Quick recap re/ AA136 LAX to LHR yesterday:
- delay at gate, no FO
- FO arrives 1,5 hrs late, replacement crew
- taxi to runway, stop halfway due to flight controls issue which was earlier fixed but came back
- standing on tarmac for 30min
- another taxi to remote hard stand for 30min
- MX fixed, 3 hours in
- plane needs to refuel
- all done, crew times out though
- left a/c after 4,5 hours, overnight stay
Just wondering, doesn’t look like that they’ve fixed their issues with the unions? Would that be an case for the tarmac comp as I was for 4,5hrs on the plane (I fly mostly in Europe so please excuse if a clear no).
Thanks all
D
-
While a similar framework doesn't exist in the US, that's as close to a sub-forum on FlyerTalk that would be a place to start: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1956110-questions-2019-about-guide-listing-compensation-master-thd-2.html
Nov 13, 2019, 3:02 pm
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Writing into AA might score a few miles
Nov 13, 2019, 3:45 pm
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I have sent a few words to AA as I need to claim my hotel anyway....
Nov 13, 2019, 3:58 pm
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Nov 13, 2019, 4:20 pm
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You just have to work the little fella in the cup so that it's evening exposed to the water.
Nov 13, 2019, 6:34 pm
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A few yrs ago you wouldnt have even gotten that (water & waffle)
Didnt AA supply you with a voucher for the hotel? Its not something one is suppose to do on their own, as the carriers have special rates worked out so it costs them alot less, by doing it on your own (if theres no note in the record saying you were told to) could mean AA will push back on it
Nov 14, 2019, 7:52 am
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A few yrs ago you wouldnt have even gotten that (water & waffle)
Didnt AA supply you with a voucher for the hotel? Its not something one is suppose to do on their own, as the carriers have special rates worked out so it costs them alot less, by doing it on your own (if theres no note in the record saying you were told to) could mean AA will push back on it
Didnt AA supply you with a voucher for the hotel? Its not something one is suppose to do on their own, as the carriers have special rates worked out so it costs them alot less, by doing it on your own (if theres no note in the record saying you were told to) could mean AA will push back on it