[Secondhand] Outrageous threat and conduct by grumpy AA FA on ORD-BOS
Nov 3, 2019, 6:13 pm
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[Secondhand] Outrageous threat and conduct by grumpy AA FA on ORD-BOS
I have no personal connection to this story; I read about it on another discussion board. Excerpts, which I have edited for brevity:
Right before takeoff, the flight attendant, who was in a very grumpy mood, yelled at me to put my feet on the ground.
“You have to put your feet on the ground!”
“No I don’t but okay.” As I put my feet down. Emphasizing again. I complied and put my feet down the first and only time she asked. I put my feet down immediately.
She immediately escalated: “Would you like to go back to the gate? We’re gonna go back to the gate!” And immediately ran down the cabin to her crew members in the back.
But right after she said that, the captain announced that we were taking off.
She came back to my seat and barked: “Police will be waiting for you when we land in Boston.”
“You have to put your feet on the ground!”
“No I don’t but okay.” As I put my feet down. Emphasizing again. I complied and put my feet down the first and only time she asked. I put my feet down immediately.
She immediately escalated: “Would you like to go back to the gate? We’re gonna go back to the gate!” And immediately ran down the cabin to her crew members in the back.
But right after she said that, the captain announced that we were taking off.
She came back to my seat and barked: “Police will be waiting for you when we land in Boston.”
As we were about to land, the flight attendant handed me this slip of paper (pictured above)
“The police will contact you when you get home. You will be banned from future flights.”
“Ok.”
“Oh I hope so.” As she walked away.
This is ridiculous and the most charitable comment I have is I hope the FA gets mental health therapy.
“The police will contact you when you get home. You will be banned from future flights.”
“Ok.”
“Oh I hope so.” As she walked away.
Last edited by davie355; Nov 3, 2019 at 10:52 pm Reason: Trying to fix img
Nov 3, 2019, 6:20 pm
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I don’t think it has to do with individual FA’s, is had to do with the horrid people in AA’s “talent acquisition” department who blindly hire without background checks and looking through their history/resume.
That being said, the FA’s on my flight earlier were great.
That being said, the FA’s on my flight earlier were great.
Nov 3, 2019, 6:23 pm
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Nov 3, 2019, 6:30 pm
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Idk, two sides to every story and all that. I just know that I may fly less than many on this forum, but way more than most of the public and have never witnessed anything like this. Even then, it seems to *always* be the FA's fault. 🤷.♂️
Hope the OP gets whatever satisfaction for which they are looking.
Hope the OP gets whatever satisfaction for which they are looking.
Nov 3, 2019, 8:45 pm
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From the story "I use a small sling that hangs from the tray table (while closed) and props your feet higher"
I think this was the issue. It could possibly interfere with people exiting the aircraft. The rules are a bit stricter for takeoff and landing than they are mid flight.
Though the comments from the FA about the police coming to the house are a bit odd, there was a point in the passenger using the device during takeoff.
I imagine it is to help with DVT, but the passenger could have waited until the plane was a cruise before installing it.
I think this was the issue. It could possibly interfere with people exiting the aircraft. The rules are a bit stricter for takeoff and landing than they are mid flight.
Though the comments from the FA about the police coming to the house are a bit odd, there was a point in the passenger using the device during takeoff.
I imagine it is to help with DVT, but the passenger could have waited until the plane was a cruise before installing it.
Nov 3, 2019, 10:23 pm
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Nov 3, 2019, 10:52 pm
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When editing for brevity it would be helpful to consider clarity and include the pertinent issue.
The redditor was using one of those leg hammocks that attach to the closed tray table:
“I use a small sling that hangs from the tray table (while closed) and props your feet higher. This sling is often advertised on Facebook for this exact purpose - to make flights more comfortable for us shorter passengers”
As it was advertised on Facebook it has to be legit
FA may have over reacted but Reddit poster may also have ahem edited the verbal exchange for umm brevity.
The redditor was using one of those leg hammocks that attach to the closed tray table:
“I use a small sling that hangs from the tray table (while closed) and props your feet higher. This sling is often advertised on Facebook for this exact purpose - to make flights more comfortable for us shorter passengers”
As it was advertised on Facebook it has to be legit
FA may have over reacted but Reddit poster may also have ahem edited the verbal exchange for umm brevity.
Last edited by arttravel; Nov 4, 2019 at 8:15 am
Nov 3, 2019, 10:58 pm
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Sorry for the image troubles, folks. I've tried a different approach and hope that works.
The pertinent issue is the FA blew up, irrationally, unprofessionally, and inhumanely. I didn't include the part about the passenger being brought to tears, comforted by her seatmates who offered their contact information in case backup eyewitnesses are needed.
If a police officer notices you have a broken taillight but approaches you with a firearm in hand and a threat your drivers license will be revoked permanently, your taillight is no longer pertinent to the story.
If a police officer notices you have a broken taillight but approaches you with a firearm in hand and a threat your drivers license will be revoked permanently, your taillight is no longer pertinent to the story.
Nov 3, 2019, 11:22 pm
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Sorry for the image troubles, folks. I've tried a different approach and hope that works.
The pertinent issue is the FA blew up, irrationally, unprofessionally, and inhumanely. I didn't include the part about the passenger being brought to tears, comforted by her seatmates who offered their contact information in case backup eyewitnesses are needed.
If a police officer notices you have a broken taillight but approaches you with a firearm in hand and a threat your drivers license will be revoked permanently, your taillight is no longer pertinent to the story.
The pertinent issue is the FA blew up, irrationally, unprofessionally, and inhumanely. I didn't include the part about the passenger being brought to tears, comforted by her seatmates who offered their contact information in case backup eyewitnesses are needed.
If a police officer notices you have a broken taillight but approaches you with a firearm in hand and a threat your drivers license will be revoked permanently, your taillight is no longer pertinent to the story.
I am inclined to believe the passenger's comments didn't stop with a simple agreement to stop using the device, as soon as requested by the FA. I have a feeling they started arguing the point about how they had brought it on "hundreds of flights" before. I doubt a simple ask (by the FA) and agreement (by the PAX) would have caused the FA to not only give them the written warning, but also warn of police action upon landing. I am thinking there was more to the discussion
Nov 3, 2019, 11:51 pm
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My personal take is that these stupid hammock things, cubes and bed boxes are right up there with the knee defender as “things that are advertised on [facebook/instagram/etc] as being a great idea and totally 100% allowed but actually not allowed in the vast majority of cases”; the fact that enforcement is not 100% effective and therefore people have “used them on hundreds of flights” etc etc doesn’t help anyone when they’re told no and suddenly it’s an argument with a “grumpy” (but usually correct) FA and a pax/pax (pl) that thinks they know the rules better
Nov 4, 2019, 3:14 am
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Sorry for the image troubles, folks. I've tried a different approach and hope that works.
The pertinent issue is the FA blew up, irrationally, unprofessionally, and inhumanely. I didn't include the part about the passenger being brought to tears, comforted by her seatmates who offered their contact information in case backup eyewitnesses are needed.
If a police officer notices you have a broken taillight but approaches you with a firearm in hand and a threat your drivers license will be revoked permanently, your taillight is no longer pertinent to the story.
The pertinent issue is the FA blew up, irrationally, unprofessionally, and inhumanely. I didn't include the part about the passenger being brought to tears, comforted by her seatmates who offered their contact information in case backup eyewitnesses are needed.
If a police officer notices you have a broken taillight but approaches you with a firearm in hand and a threat your drivers license will be revoked permanently, your taillight is no longer pertinent to the story.
Nov 4, 2019, 3:38 am
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I'll never understand the apparent satisfaction some people get from posting these secondhand and incomplete stories.
My guess: plenty of blame to go around both on the passenger and the FA.
But since none of us were there, can't see how this discussion is going to go anywhere useful.
My guess: plenty of blame to go around both on the passenger and the FA.
But since none of us were there, can't see how this discussion is going to go anywhere useful.