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Originally Posted by USFlyerUS
(Post 31618170)
And hotels and rental car companies. Only airlines have hung onto a system that rewards one based on a non-financial metric. It seems those days are rapidly coming to an end.
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Originally Posted by nall
(Post 31618240)
Eh? Most of the big hotel chains still award elite status based on number of nights.
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Originally Posted by USFlyerUS
(Post 31618170)
My only issue with all of this is ALL spend (excluding taxes and non-airline fees) should count towards the EQD total -- airfare, change fees, club memberships, seat charges, miles redemption fees, and so forth.
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In that example, I would argue UA makes more on that passenger than someone who flies 25 r/t to get to $24K.
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Originally Posted by Mr. BoH
(Post 31618313)
Agree completely. I actually think most people (well, maybe not on FT) would respond well to a fair, transparent, non-arbitrary system like this. Sure it will piss off some of those who are able to game the system and achieve high EQM with low spend, but those probably aren’t the airline’s most profitable customers anyway.
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Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 31618683)
There is a reason WN often wins for best FFP. It is simple to understand and straightforward.
Not a knock on WN, at all but their entire model is simple which means their FFP is simple too. If I wasn't traveling 100k miles a year and flew a few times, I'd fly WN in a heartbeat |
I think that the new program serves to penalize fliers living at hubs to the tune of $6000 at a 1K level. Convenience is the primary reason I choose United but apparently it is time to start reevaluating. If you can fly direct, why add additional stops? If you are going to add a connection, why not look at other airlines? A 60% increase in spend (w/o PQF) is enough to start looking around for me.
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Changes for 2019 Appear to have announced on Nov 5, 2018
So the big question for me as I start to think about what to do about 2021 status, is when American will make it's declaration of status requirements for EXP.
Based upon old posts I'm seeing on Boardingarea, it appears articles were first written on Nov 5, 2018 for 2020 status earned through 2019. With that in mind, I guess we'll know in about 3 weeks what AA intends to do. |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 31616791)
Wow. They might as well just change 1k to 100K as in a few years that's what the spend minimum will be.
At any rate I say I look forward to my last EXP year next year as sure as S Parker will change this spend threshold minimums. Game over for me. It was a nice ride while it lasted. Trying to find out the requirements for maintaining lifetime gold, (million miler) if the 4 flights per year still applies. |
Originally Posted by airlineonline
(Post 31619301)
Absolutely agree. I am done.
Trying to find out the requirements for maintaining lifetime gold, (million miler) if the 4 flights per year still applies. |
Originally Posted by airlineonline
(Post 31619301)
Absolutely agree. I am done.
Trying to find out the requirements for maintaining lifetime gold, (million miler) if the 4 flights per year still applies. |
QF have a four flight min to maintain lifetime gold as well.
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Originally Posted by andersonCooper
(Post 31617899)
The program is quite similar to CX MPC now which encourages segments over distance.
I agree with the principle that there ought to be reasonable levels of earnings to get the tiered rewards of memberships, but I think the airlines are in danger of taking in to an extreme by reducing membership numbers at the top levels to the very exclusive. This only encourages people to go 'free agent' meaning the airlines will be back to competing on cost creating new fare wars. Bad for the airlines, but perhaps good for the consumer. |
Originally Posted by airlineonline
(Post 31619573)
QF have a four flight min to maintain lifetime gold as well.
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