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Originally Posted by Mr. BoH
(Post 31617489)
I agree with you. In my view, the most sensible system would based on spend only (perhaps with a multiplier for J/F fares), ignoring both segments and miles. That would be a decent proxy for how "valuable" you are as a customer. This is essentially what Southwest and Amtrak do.
I was viewing the UA model as at least a step in the right direction. |
How many flyers would buy 2 expensive $12K J fares (or the like) and say "I've got my EXP status now." Probably very few and far in between and meaningless within the stats. Very high probability that some that just spend $24K+ with your airline did it flying multiple times. The issue with also an EQM kicker is that some high spend flyers are buying expensive tickets on short routes. Think of someone buying 2 or more last minute tickets weekly on the DCA/LGA shuttle with some other International J flights thrown in. They might make the $24K EQDs but not make the 100K EQMs.
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I think y'all are missing that low dollar folks on UA can benefit because the PQD component now includes non 016 flights (i.e. non UA flight nos.) (i.e. Singapore marketed and operated, etc.) The divisor is 5 or 6. Those who want to do it on mileage can if very strategic and come out under 9K (I.e. flying NYC to SIN) a a few times in PE or the like. The 24K number is steep but not quite as steep as you might think (nor the 18K number for that part).
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Originally Posted by Antarius
(Post 31616826)
Why?
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Personally id welcome this change. I’m at 65k eqm but over $17k in spend. I’m going to struggle to hit 100k eqm and May miss exp this year
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Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 31617634)
A multiplier for non-economy fares...such a novel idea. AA does that now.
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UA was never an airline I aspired to fly. Honestly think I only flew them during IRROPS when USAir was *A. Haven’t even established a MPlus account despite having status privileges via Marriott status.
Seriously considering UA now as with my flying patterns 1K is very attainable versus naturally obtaining PLT on AA. |
Originally Posted by GTITAN
(Post 31617685)
I think y'all are missing that low dollar folks on UA can benefit because the PQD component now includes non 016 flights (i.e. non UA flight nos.) (i.e. Singapore marketed and operated, etc.) The divisor is 5 or 6. Those who want to do it on mileage can if very strategic and come out under 9K (I.e. flying NYC to SIN) a a few times in PE or the like. The 24K number is steep but not quite as steep as you might think (nor the 18K number for that part).
Safe Travels The program is quite similar to CX MPC now which encourages segments over distance. |
Originally Posted by Nuhusky
(Post 31617716)
Personally id welcome this change. I’m at 65k eqm but over $17k in spend. I’m going to struggle to hit 100k eqm and May miss exp this year
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Of course AA will follow UA. They intend to win the race to the bottom.
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Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 31617929)
Based on those numbers under UA’s new system you still wouldn’t qualify for top tier. So why exactly would you welcome a change that doesn’t benefit you?
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Originally Posted by Nuhusky
(Post 31618003)
Sure I would. I have 51 segments and will hit over $18k this month
Every airline doesn’t need to have the exact same elite status requirements. |
Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 31618097)
Sounds like a switch to UA might be a better fit for you.
Every airline doesn’t need to have the exact same elite status requirements. i do a number of trips to nyc and hate lga with a burning passion. Newark would be far better. |
Originally Posted by Mr. BoH
(Post 31617489)
I agree with you. In my view, the most sensible system would based on spend only (perhaps with a multiplier for J/F fares), ignoring both segments and miles. That would be a decent proxy for how "valuable" you are as a customer. This is essentially what Southwest and Amtrak do.
My only issue with all of this is ALL spend (excluding taxes and non-airline fees) should count towards the EQD total -- airfare, change fees, club memberships, seat charges, miles redemption fees, and so forth. |
Indeed, more my point was that one could get 1K again for under 15K without the waiver for foreign residency. UA is now more like DL and AA that it was. Foreign carriers in J or PEY are the new mileage runs it would appear for UA denizens.
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