due to weather, agent rebooked me to wrong airport 7900 miles away, should I fly?
Jul 20, 2019, 12:45 pm
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It's still not been resolved what relevance the "East Coast" had to the discussion; whether it was the origin or the connection point was originally a point of contention (and unresolved); going on PVG/PGV, it now appears that East Coast was both the connection AND the presumed destination, so the "disruption" would not have been minimised by flying out of a different airport - the end result was always going to be that difficult CLT-PGV flight; it's the only way AA could get there [or anybody else; the only flights to PGV are on AA from CLT, there are no other routes or operators], so it doesn't seem to be a logical thing for the OP to have asked to fly from a different airport.
Jul 20, 2019, 12:57 pm
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I don’t know of any informed US citizen OCI holders who would present India as a place where US citizens don’t generally need visas. OCI itself is effectively a glorified long term visa for people with Indian grandparental/parental connections or marital connections (to an OCI visa holder or OCI visa-eligible holder).
Jul 20, 2019, 1:01 pm
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I don’t know of any informed US citizen OCI holders who would present India as a place where US citizens don’t generally need visas. OCI itself is effectively a glorified long term visa for people with Indian grandparental/parental connections or marital connections (to an OCI visa holder or OCI visa-eligible holder).
Despite the addition of "(in my situation)" in the sentence "I do have my passport with me and the wrong airport does not require visa for US citizens.(edit: in my situation) ", I tend to think that the destination must be one where *ANY* US passport holder is not required to hold a visa. But indeed, it is a strange way to phrase it - but implying that there is something different about this US citizen's status with regard to this country does not mean the OP is an expert at the immigration rules of that country for US citizens. It may just have been meant as "Speaking for myself, I know I don't need a visa - but YMMV!"
Otherwise, OLCI would surely have been a problem, and the agent is unlikely to have been able to convert a domestic ticket into an international one demanding passport/API information....
Jul 20, 2019, 1:04 pm
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I don’t know of any informed US citizen OCI holders who would present India as a place where US citizens don’t generally need visas. OCI itself is effectively a glorified long term visa for people with Indian grandparental/parental connections or marital connections (to an OCI visa holder or OCI visa-eligible holder).
No, the OP said that no visa was needed in his/her situation; there was no claim that a visa generally wasn't needed.....and a lot of USA citizens are extremely clueless about visas, often making assumptions that one situation applies to another and not bothering to check until someone gets an unwelcome surprise at an airport.
Jul 20, 2019, 1:06 pm
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But it's apparent the OP didn't use words precisely.
It's still not been resolved what relevance the "East Coast" had to the discussion; whether it was the origin or the connection point was originally a point of contention (and unresolved); going on PVG/PGV, it now appears that East Coast was both the connection AND the presumed destination, so the "disruption" would not have been minimised by flying out of a different airport - the end result was always going to be that difficult CLT-PGV flight; it's the only way AA could get there [or anybody else; the only flights to PGV are on AA from CLT, there are no other routes or operators], so it doesn't seem to be a logical thing for the OP to have asked to fly from a different airport.
It's still not been resolved what relevance the "East Coast" had to the discussion; whether it was the origin or the connection point was originally a point of contention (and unresolved); going on PVG/PGV, it now appears that East Coast was both the connection AND the presumed destination, so the "disruption" would not have been minimised by flying out of a different airport - the end result was always going to be that difficult CLT-PGV flight; it's the only way AA could get there [or anybody else; the only flights to PGV are on AA from CLT, there are no other routes or operators], so it doesn't seem to be a logical thing for the OP to have asked to fly from a different airport.
I've been able to do OLCI for my China TWOV itineraries, although the boarding pass prints automatically as "visa required" even though the PNR/ticket (one one) is clearly TWOV compliant.
Jul 20, 2019, 1:07 pm
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Indeed.
Despite the addition of "(in my situation)" in the sentence "I do have my passport with me and the wrong airport does not require visa for US citizens.(edit: in my situation) ", I tend to think that the destination must be one where *ANY* US passport holder is not required to hold a visa. But indeed, it is a strange way to phrase it - but implying that there is something different about this US citizen's status with regard to this country does not mean the OP is an expert at the immigration rules of that country for US citizens. It may just have been meant as "Speaking for myself, I know I don't need a visa - but YMMV!"
Otherwise, OLCI would surely have been a problem, and the agent is unlikely to have been able to convert a domestic ticket into an international one demanding passport/API information....
Despite the addition of "(in my situation)" in the sentence "I do have my passport with me and the wrong airport does not require visa for US citizens.(edit: in my situation) ", I tend to think that the destination must be one where *ANY* US passport holder is not required to hold a visa. But indeed, it is a strange way to phrase it - but implying that there is something different about this US citizen's status with regard to this country does not mean the OP is an expert at the immigration rules of that country for US citizens. It may just have been meant as "Speaking for myself, I know I don't need a visa - but YMMV!"
Otherwise, OLCI would surely have been a problem, and the agent is unlikely to have been able to convert a domestic ticket into an international one demanding passport/API information....
While SecureFlight data is extracted from APIS data so it (SF data) need not be entered separately when APIS is completed, it is SecureFlight data that is generally needed to make a booking for domestic US flights and for international flights to/from the USA. All while the APIS data can all be loaded at check-in itself. This dynamic with APIS is why the USG doesn’t want passengers to be allowed to check in for international flights from the US without having enough time to run the APIS info for exit control purposes.
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Jul 20, 2019, 1:08 pm
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"I do have my passport with me and the wrong airport does not require visa for US citizens"
Jul 20, 2019, 1:09 pm
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The OP merely says that OLCI worked - neglecting to say whether or not API information had to be filled in, or was automatically detected from his/her AA account, etc...
Jul 20, 2019, 1:11 pm
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Jul 20, 2019, 1:12 pm
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If Airport A was Hobby and Airport B was Houston Intercontinental, it doesn't appear logical to request to change from one to the other, if the problem is with the CLT-PGV flight ("East Coast" weather).
Jul 20, 2019, 1:13 pm
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The OP may not be an expert in US visa requirements, and came back to say "I know I don't need a visa because I have entered there before on this passport, but I can't speak for all US passport holders, so YMMV!!!"
Jul 20, 2019, 1:16 pm
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OK, but that doesn't address my point about the CLT-PGV bottleneck.
If Airport A was Hobby and Airport B was Houston Intercontinental, it doesn't appear logical to request to change from one to the other, if the problem is with the CLT-PGV flight ("East Coast" weather).
If Airport A was Hobby and Airport B was Houston Intercontinental, it doesn't appear logical to request to change from one to the other, if the problem is with the CLT-PGV flight ("East Coast" weather).
Jul 20, 2019, 1:18 pm
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No, the OP said that no visa was needed in his/her situation; there was no claim that a visa generally wasn't needed.....and a lot of USA citizens are extremely clueless about visas, often making assumptions that one situation applies to another and not bothering to check until someone gets an unwelcome surprise at an airport.
Jul 20, 2019, 1:20 pm
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I just hope the OP comes back and fills in the all the missing info!!!
Jul 20, 2019, 1:20 pm
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My guess is that OP posted, then modified his post once he figured out the visa waiver issue with China.
Finally, I think that the "mistyped" place would need to be someplace that (a) AA flew, and (b) you could get a last minute mileage ticket back from, (c) that if misdone, you might say "well hell, I want to go there"; and would not immediately raise suspicians as it was a code folks would know (e.g. BNA for BCN, although that requires a letter change, while OP said it was just scrambled). No place but PVG fit that bill, and I can't think of any paired city other than PGV where AA flies, but UA does not, and so that a UA elite flyer (or one with enough miles for a last minute ticket back to the US) would be on AA.