Safety Issues (What to do)
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Safety Issues (What to do)
In less than a week, I have witnessed 2 safety incidents onboard AA flights.
1. A BWI-ORD flight on a 737. The flight attendants seemed to struggle with how to operate the video PA system. Upon starting the safety video (overhead screens), we got to the part showing the exits, and then the video stopped suddenly. The crew looked at each other, walked down the aisle saying “seat belts please” and nothing more. There was no attempt to restart the video or perform the briefing manually. Essentially, half of the mandated safety instructions were not presented to the flight.
2. At MDT, a passenger notified the gate agent that he forgot to remove some spare lithium batteries for his electric drill. The agent said “I don’t control that, only the TSA does”. She made a phone call, and then told the passenger, “don’t worry, the bag has already been loaded onto the plane”. He knew it was a problem, and asked them to bring him the batteries so he could put them in his carry on.
Both incidents jeopardize the safety of all on board. 1 with passengers possibly not knowing what to do in an emergency, and 2 if the batteries were to start a fire.
I wrote in about the first incident, and received a canned response that the info would be added to a database for review (I’ve seen that one before”.
What can and should be done about this?
1. A BWI-ORD flight on a 737. The flight attendants seemed to struggle with how to operate the video PA system. Upon starting the safety video (overhead screens), we got to the part showing the exits, and then the video stopped suddenly. The crew looked at each other, walked down the aisle saying “seat belts please” and nothing more. There was no attempt to restart the video or perform the briefing manually. Essentially, half of the mandated safety instructions were not presented to the flight.
2. At MDT, a passenger notified the gate agent that he forgot to remove some spare lithium batteries for his electric drill. The agent said “I don’t control that, only the TSA does”. She made a phone call, and then told the passenger, “don’t worry, the bag has already been loaded onto the plane”. He knew it was a problem, and asked them to bring him the batteries so he could put them in his carry on.
Both incidents jeopardize the safety of all on board. 1 with passengers possibly not knowing what to do in an emergency, and 2 if the batteries were to start a fire.
I wrote in about the first incident, and received a canned response that the info would be added to a database for review (I’ve seen that one before”.
What can and should be done about this?
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Would anything actually come of that, or just “added to a database”? These are serious issues and I want to be sure something is done about this. In my note to AA, I even noted I don’t want anything except for assurance that this will be handled seriously, and perhaps some follow up regarding it
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Would anything actually come of that, or just “added to a database”? These are serious issues and I want to be sure something is done about this. In my note to AA, I even noted I don’t want anything except for assurance that this will be handled seriously, and perhaps some follow up regarding it
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There's some NASA administered database you can report these things to (which I thought was ridiculous when another poster mentioned it before and I apologize to whomever that was 👍 that is taken seriously if you really want to go that route. I have no idea the website or process though.
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Good news on number 2: AA had a manager meet the plane in Charlotte to investigate the battery in the bag. They were given the information of the passenger that had the battery so they could locate the bag and get more detailed information about the agent at the origin airport (as to what transpired).
This was definitely handled serious and with urgency. I had my doubts based on the initial reply, which seemed to just be putting in a database for review. Overall pleased with the response, but this never should have happened in the first place.
This was definitely handled serious and with urgency. I had my doubts based on the initial reply, which seemed to just be putting in a database for review. Overall pleased with the response, but this never should have happened in the first place.
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for the safety video, I am sure , from what I have seen, no one ever pays attention... I always try too, just to appease the FA
for the second part.. who knows.. maybe it AA going for on time departues
for the second part.. who knows.. maybe it AA going for on time departues
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Second issue - probably just laziness
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#2 is a big deal, and I'd definitely write it up for the FAA. Whether or not they follow-up isn't for us to decide but it sounds more like blatant disregard for safety in the goal for D0, not even laziness.
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Number 1 would best be handled by writing AA customer service with the date and flight number. It will actually be gone over with the FA crew and noted in their HR files. When the video player malfunctioned, they are supposed to do a complete manual demo of the safety features of the aircraft (like they do on aircraft without video monitors). If you feel that the crew was particularly negligent, feel free to report it to the FAA (that's what they are there for), but please write a concise note to AA. Explain that the video demo malfunctioned early in the safety demo, they were unable to fix it, and did NOT do a manual safety demonstration.
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You can complain, but you can not sustain an argument about a violation of a rule nor an assessment of safety on your part..
Many so-called rules regarding passenger safety can be interpreted by the airline on a case by case basis (which they did)
Many so-called rules regarding passenger safety can be interpreted by the airline on a case by case basis (which they did)
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Maybe OP could join with this thread (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...tive-card.html) and add to the class action...
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Reports of possible safety violations go to the FAA. Consumer complaints go to DOT. I strongly encourage the OP to report any suspected safety violations to the FAA. The goal isn't to get compensation. The goal is to make sure that a safety culture is maintained. Aviation is safe precisely because of the OCD-like approach to safety. If the FAA thinks the report is trivial, the report will be ignored. I'm sure they get a lot of them. See something, say something.
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But apparently not enough to cause you to switch flights, particularly on the second incident. One might reasonably ask whether you're more concerned with actual safety or with discovering and reporting rule infractions.