Is AA safe? Do US airlines really endanger passengers to save money?
#16
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As to the 3M8, it’s useful to note AA bought them with both the “optional safety extra” angle of attack indicator in the primary flight display and the AoA disagree warning - the only airline in the US that did so, and at best one of a handful of airlines worldwide that did so. (Southwest purchased the AoA disagree warning, but it turns out Boeing didn’t tell them it couldn’t work without the AoA display.)
As a codicil, I've been fortunate to be among the groups of FlyerTalkers invited to United Family Day at their SFO world repair headquarters, and after having met probably a dozen people working on UA planes I feel incredibly safe flying that airline. As one person put it, there is no way knowing that his kids, parents, partner or those of his teammates would not be on that plane sometime soon so he had better work as though it was he keeping loved ones safe. Now I've lived in Hong Kong, have friends who work at Cathay, and can't imagine that they would not take the same professional approach to their work, even if for a different airline.
#17
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Opening this thread, I honestly thought it would be about the the AoA disagree warning vs AoA display issue forgetting whether it was WN or AA that did not buy the full kit....
#18
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SEATTLE (Reuters) - Boeing Co learned that a cockpit warning light on its 737 MAX jetliner was defective in 2017 but decided to defer fixing it until 2020, U.S. lawmakers said on Friday.
The defective warning light alerts pilots when two sensors that measure the angle between the airflow and the wing disagree. Faulty “angle of attack” data is suspected of playing a role in two deadly crashes involving Boeing’s best-selling 737 MAX in Indonesia in October and in Ethiopia in March.
Boeing delayed fix of defective 737 MAX warning light for three years: U.S. lawmakers by Eric M. Johnson, 7 Jun 2019, Reuters - link
The defective warning light alerts pilots when two sensors that measure the angle between the airflow and the wing disagree. Faulty “angle of attack” data is suspected of playing a role in two deadly crashes involving Boeing’s best-selling 737 MAX in Indonesia in October and in Ethiopia in March.
Boeing delayed fix of defective 737 MAX warning light for three years: U.S. lawmakers by Eric M. Johnson, 7 Jun 2019, Reuters - link
Hopefully, the Board and shareholders see that saving airlines $80k per aircraft by convincing them MCAS was ready even as they were drafting modifications and that the AoA indicator and disagree warnings were merely optional frippery for nervous pilots is likely to end up costing Boeing billions of dollars.
#21
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I spend about half my year in countries other than America where all facets of public transportation are a whole lot more dangerous than taking a flight on AA. I’ll take the odds - over 87,000 flights per day crossing the USA in 2018 and one fatality on a Southwest Flight.