I知 leaving - I guess AA won't miss me
Apr 28, 2019, 5:22 pm
#76
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: IWA
Programs: DL, AA
Posts: 3,923
Going for Great - wasn't that the motto for AA before the merger? After seeing what Parker did to America West after he took over in 2002, US Airways, and now American, it's all the same pattern reduce passenger comfort, take away the video screens, work force disfunction. (Canceling the a350 order didn't win any points in my book, since comfort is far superior than the 787) Somewhere down the line the BOD of AA have to notice there is someone wrong with the way company underperforming, for example the number of first class seats purchased is declining which is saying the money travelers are leaving, that it is time for new leadership.
Apr 28, 2019, 5:24 pm
#77
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: The FT AA forum, until it no longer wants me.
Programs: CK or bust
Posts: 1,913
Going for Great - wasn't that the motto for AA before the merger? After seeing what Parker did to America West after he took over in 2002, US Airways, and now American, it's all the same pattern reduce passenger comfort, take away the video screens, work force disfunction. (Canceling the a350 order didn't win any points in my book, since comfort is far superior than the 787) Somewhere down the line the BOD of AA have to notice there is someone wrong with the way company underperforming, for example the number of first class seats purchased is declining which is saying the money travelers are leaving, that it is time for new leadership.
Apr 29, 2019, 6:08 am
#79
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2006
Programs: AAdvantage PP
Posts: 13,913
I took a VDB yesterday and ended up in 28F (worth the $500 voucher). The entire back of the plane was empty and suddenly at the end it was like an army came onboard. BTW fares for this summer are very high. I always buy Main Cabin and with a connection to the West Coast flights from MIA are around $600-$700, $800 and up for direct fares. This is booking about 8-10 weeks out. BE is about $100-$150 less. And planes are full to the gills. I've collected $975 in vouchers in the last week.
Apr 29, 2019, 7:10 am
#80
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
Posts: 7,819
I took a VDB yesterday and ended up in 28F (worth the $500 voucher). The entire back of the plane was empty and suddenly at the end it was like an army came onboard. BTW fares for this summer are very high. I always buy Main Cabin and with a connection to the West Coast flights from MIA are around $600-$700, $800 and up for direct fares. This is booking about 8-10 weeks out. BE is about $100-$150 less. And planes are full to the gills. I've collected $975 in vouchers in the last week.
Apr 29, 2019, 8:47 am
#82
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,148
I recently looked for 2 R/Ts to WAW from DFW. The DFW-LHR-WAW was $7K in J. I looked 100 miles east at my old hometown airport, tiny little TYR. Found a TYR-DFW-LHR-WAW for $2900. "Fleecing" is definitely an accurate description. Being in a frothy market in DFW (for the time being, anyway) is another.
Jun 11, 2019, 1:54 am
#83
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN
Posts: 3,214
Due to AA's killing off JFK intl. operations (for me, loss of n/s to ZRH) and only two n/s (sometimes 3) between JFK and LAS (vs DL's 5*), I've quit flying AA (in revenue flts.)
I did fly two itns, one through a Casino promo to LAS and one to use SWUs. I have 1579 EQD and 16896 EQM now. I've been EXP for 8 years and ended 2018 with 17181 EQD and 177,448 EQM, last year by May 1 I was midway to those totals.
I wonder how many other "loyal" flyers have/are defecting.
*one flt in each direction is Delta 1: 180 degree recline in FC.^
I did fly two itns, one through a Casino promo to LAS and one to use SWUs. I have 1579 EQD and 16896 EQM now. I've been EXP for 8 years and ended 2018 with 17181 EQD and 177,448 EQM, last year by May 1 I was midway to those totals.
I wonder how many other "loyal" flyers have/are defecting.
*one flt in each direction is Delta 1: 180 degree recline in FC.^
Jun 11, 2019, 10:20 pm
#84
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Explat / UA Silver
Posts: 600
I'm sure there is too, but AA has burned a tremendous amount of loyalty in NYC. We're incentivized to travel AA (work travel policy is J >1,900 miles, except AA always), but i have colleagues biting the bullet and switching to UA / DL because the network has become hard to deal with.
Jun 11, 2019, 10:26 pm
#85
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: SNA
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K (until it expires then never again), *wood Plat, Marriott Gold
Posts: 9,239
I'm sure there is too, but AA has burned a tremendous amount of loyalty in NYC. We're incentivized to travel AA (work travel policy is J >1,900 miles, except AA always), but i have colleagues biting the bullet and switching to UA / DL because the network has become hard to deal with.
Jun 12, 2019, 6:15 am
#86
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Explat / UA Silver
Posts: 600
am I reading that correctly that you can book J on AA for *every* flight but can only book J on DL/UA over 1900 miles and your coworker is so disenfranchised they are willing to fly Y on UA/DL on shorter flights rather than J on AA? That seems...extreme and a bit a long the cutting off ones nose to me.
Jun 12, 2019, 8:07 am
#87
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW-In Plano & CDG-In the 11th
Programs: DL Diamond, AA revenue negative, Bonvoy Titanium +, Avis likes me
Posts: 3,209
am I reading that correctly that you can book J on AA for *every* flight but can only book J on DL/UA over 1900 miles and your coworker is so disenfranchised they are willing to fly Y on UA/DL on shorter flights rather than J on AA? That seems...extreme and a bit a long the cutting off ones nose to me.
The point is to get to B from A.
If one feels better not enriching a management team who's focus is only on increasing their retirement pot after driving a THIRD airline into the ground, and a staff that mostly treats PAX like solid animal waste, more often than not, because they just don't care and neither does management-Go for it!
Jun 12, 2019, 9:26 am
#88
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DAY
Programs: Rapid Rewards, Skymiles, Hilton HHonors, SPG/Marriott Rewards
Posts: 4,955
am I reading that correctly that you can book J on AA for *every* flight but can only book J on DL/UA over 1900 miles and your coworker is so disenfranchised they are willing to fly Y on UA/DL on shorter flights rather than J on AA? That seems...extreme and a bit a long the cutting off ones nose to me.