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JDiver Aug 27, 2011 1:53 pm

Just parenthetically, here's what real million milers looked like in the days or recips:

http://www.dmairfield.org/Collection...ion-Milers.jpg
American Airlines Million Milers (1930s)

;)

kebosabi Aug 27, 2011 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by gegarrenton (Post 17007230)
Well, bump EXP to 125 then. I just dont think it should be the same, thtas all.

That would work as well; GLD 25%, PLT 100%, EXP 125%. Whatever it is, elite bonus miles for PLT /= EXP. But IMO, elite bonus should be reconsidered as part of "flight miles" as they only come with flying.

2millionquest Aug 27, 2011 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 17007252)
Just parenthetically, here's what real million milers looked like in the days or recips:

;)

Too kewl! Thanks for sharing! :)

Dave Noble Aug 27, 2011 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by kebosabi (Post 17007324)
That would work as well; GLD 25%, PLT 100%, EXP 125%. Whatever it is, elite bonus miles for PLT /= EXP. But IMO, elite bonus should be reconsidered as part of "flight miles" as they only come with flying.

I don't see why bonus miles from having status should count towards lifetime status any more than they should count towards annual renewal. I can see some justification to reward premium fare travellers but not to make it a 500,000 Miler programme for those with Platinum or higher status

JDiver Aug 27, 2011 2:43 pm

What he said. ^


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 17007477)
I don't see why bonus miles from having status should count towards lifetime status any more than they should count towards annual renewal. I can see some justification to reward premium fare travellers but not to make it a 500,000 Miler programme for those with Platinum or higher status


FoothillFlyer Aug 27, 2011 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 17007252)
Just parenthetically, here's what real million milers looked like in the days or recips:

http://www.dmairfield.org/Collection...ion-Milers.jpg
American Airlines Million Milers (1930s)

;)

I like that the transcon Captain has the 50 Mission Crush going on.

gegarrenton Aug 27, 2011 3:49 pm

That is a great find!

bpo26c Aug 27, 2011 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by AZbba (Post 16987277)
I'm happy with this decision since I should have no problem hitting 1 million by Dec 1st. I might even wait and do a quick MR to push me over 1 mm for the 35k miles.

But honestly, this seems like a stupid decision for AA. It seems like a lose-lose to me. They decrease cc spend, decrease incoming mile transfers, decrease eshopping, and decrease loyalty (as anyone who doesn't fly enough for status but has gold from million mile is likely going to choose to fly on AA - even if it's a bit more expensive).

I also don't see how it dilutes the product that much. Either the million mile elites fly a lot and use their benefits (in which case they would be elite anyway) or they fly rarely, in which case it's not causing much dilution at all to the elite program.

It seems to me the smart move would have been to make the program semi-public (but don't advertise it) and either lower gold to 500k from any source or make a silver tier @ 500k. and make plat or above BIS only.

So you would get a ton of low level elites. Probably flying mostly for vacation and loving the novelty of having status, so they would be incredibly loyal to AA. In addition you'd get them to "earn" 500k miles somehow which would probably be a combination of flying/transfering points/cc spending/eshopping all of which are good for AA no?

In a market where AA is shrinking, doesn't have the international routes of it's peers (with the exception of Caribbean/South America) and is usually on the high side of pricing, loyalty seems like exactly what they would need.

This is a great recommendation..Hopefully AA will take note.

ILuvParis Aug 27, 2011 4:34 pm

It's difficult for me to believe that very many people on a percentage basis use their credit cards for the purpose of getting Llfetime Gold or Platinum. They use them to get redeemable miles. Everyone is just not that savvy. I would presume AA has thought long and hard about this and I have to think they don't feel it's going to have a large negative impact. Of course, they wouldn't be the first business to make really bad decisions. I would expect that other airlines will be soon be diluting their programs similarly.

kebosabi Aug 27, 2011 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 17007477)
I don't see why bonus miles from having status should count towards lifetime status any more than they should count towards annual renewal. I can see some justification to reward premium fare travellers but not to make it a 500,000 Miler programme for those with Platinum or higher status

Same with annual renewal; not everyone qualifies every year with just miles. Some qualifies with EQP and others with EQS.

The concern is why should an EXP who qualifies every year by going over 100,000 for ten years achieve LT GLD, whereas another EXP who qualifies every year by flying 100 segments every year cannot.

In that aspect, I think at least counting elite bonus miles as part of flight miles would be a good balancer to that if it's just going to be based upon 1MM EQM.

ontheway Aug 27, 2011 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach (Post 16999456)
If you now have 78K miles, 78,000, you would need an additional 922,000 miles to reach 1 million.

Good luck with that.

Once you reach 1 million miles, yes, you will get a 35K bonus once and Gold status for the rest of your life or the life of the Aadvantage program.

All miles from all sources will count before 12/1/2011. After 12/1/2011, your existing miles from all sources will count towards the 1MM goal, plus miles flown on AA or partner airlines, but not credit card miles. They will separate the miles on your AA.com and paper statement.

Your credit card miles will count towards mileage award, such as upgrades, free tickets and other things like that. They will not count towards the million mile goal.

I had posted earlier in this thread that I already have 922K. I just wasn't sure if there was any benefit to hitting MM before the end of the year or after. I am curious if I will still get the 35,00 bonus if I hit it this year.

Dave Noble Aug 27, 2011 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by kebosabi (Post 17008167)

In that aspect, I think at least counting elite bonus miles as part of flight miles would be a good balancer to that if it's just going to be based upon 1MM EQM.

that doesn't balance; it just halves the requirements for those with status.

Dave

badgerW Aug 27, 2011 6:53 pm


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 17008375)
that doesn't balance; it just halves the requirements for those with status.

Dave

And is that not as it should be? Isn't that part of the supposed point of these changes, to restrict LT status to those who actually fly? Do you not think it reasonable that someone who flies at PLT level (50k) consistently for 10 years should hit LT GLD? And 20 years for LT PLT? Is that not "lifetime" enough for you? Now look at the GLD 25% bonus. If someone flies at exactly GLD level (25k per year) then with the 25% bonus they effectively have 31,250 miles per year. It still would take this hypothetical GLD flyer 32 years to hit LT GLD!

susiesan Aug 27, 2011 7:02 pm

I'm somewhat confused aboout elite vs lifetime status
 
I am currently lifetime Gold. I have 1,450,039 program to date miles. I have 44,620 to go for lifetime Platinum according to AA. Is this different than elite Platinum? Is there any reason for me to expedite getting the 44K miles before 12/1 to get to Platinum under this Million Miler program? I can easily buy a CD from Direct Bank before then or get another Citi card.

I don't see much difference between Gold and Platinum in terms of benefits for me. I only fly AA on paid tickets 3-4 times a year, always domestic coach. I still have all the 500 mile upgrade stickers I got when turning Gold and will probably never use them.

So should I hasten becoming Platinum or not?

ILuvParis Aug 27, 2011 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by susiesan (Post 17008633)
I am currently lifetime Gold. I have 1,450,039 program to date miles. I have 44,620 to go for lifetime Platinum according to AA. Is this different than elite Platinum? Is there any reason for me to expedite getting the 44K miles before 12/1 to get to Platinum under this Million Miler program? I can easily buy a CD from Direct Bank before then or get another Citi card.

I don't see much difference between Gold and Platinum in terms of benefits for me. I only fly AA on paid tickets 3-4 times a year, always domestic coach. I still have all the 500 mile upgrade stickers I got when turning Gold and will probably never use them.

So should I hasten becoming Platinum or not?

Are you sure you don't need 44,620 to become Platinum for the year (which would mean you have flown 5380 this year so far)? You need 2 million to be Lifetime Platinum.


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