Award routing US-Eur OR ME-Asia rules changes 2 Apr 2019
Apr 5, 2019, 3:15 pm
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As such, it is quite correct that it would be charged as 2 awards, regardless of any changes that have occurred
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Apr 5, 2019, 3:32 pm
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On aa.com and on the phone AA would price India-DOH-Europe-US at 40k miles in economy class, at least late last year and earlier this year.
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Apr 5, 2019, 3:57 pm
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The fact that they would do something like this (and also the EY rule changes) seems to suggest that specific award levels aren't going away on AA, because without award charts (see UA), they could just set an arbitrary price for any route/date. But then again, maybe the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Apr 5, 2019, 4:00 pm
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What I was wondering was how does this brand new EY stuff integrates with the previous rumors about EY leaving AA for UA-- seems a bit counterintuitive, to me at least.
Apr 5, 2019, 4:13 pm
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Big ups to @UA Fan!
This change he discovered is kinda minor, but was part of a bigger package of April 2 changes that **appears** to be *great* news regarding use of EY on awards!
Oddly the rule that I mention above was always there (well, for a year at least) in the documentation but wasn't being enforced for some reason-- as others clearly noticed.
(this is from March of last year):
This change he discovered is kinda minor, but was part of a bigger package of April 2 changes that **appears** to be *great* news regarding use of EY on awards!
Oddly the rule that I mention above was always there (well, for a year at least) in the documentation but wasn't being enforced for some reason-- as others clearly noticed.
(this is from March of last year):
Thanks for digging this up.
Apr 5, 2019, 5:17 pm
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The fact that they would do something like this (and also the EY rule changes) seems to suggest that specific award levels aren't going away on AA, because without award charts (see UA), they could just set an arbitrary price for any route/date. But then again, maybe the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Removing published award charts or parts thereof doesn’t mean that the FFP-owning airline is without award charts of sort. DL pulled its published charts in ways and yet there are still award charts used by DL; and non-published award chart pricing remains relevant for awards on partner airlines even as its way less relevant to using DL miles for DL flights than it used to be.
Redeeming miles on partner airlines tend to stick to specific award levels (and binary availability logic) in a way that redeeming miles on the program owner’s own airline may not. It’s been the case with redeeming DL miles, for example. And UA and AA seem to play “Follow the Leader” when it comes to airline loyalty program changes.
USA-India flying passengers getting another option to use miles to get to/from India without an award travel cost hike in miles isn’t a bad thing for this US-India flyer. While I could see this change with award travel on EY increasing USA-AUH demand, the potential easing of pressure on demand to fly QR is useful to me.
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Apr 6, 2019, 3:52 am
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Per the award charts (as well as otherwise): US-Europe in economy class is 22.5k or 30k. US-Middle East, as with US-India, is 40k in economy class. Middle East-India is 17.5k in economy. Europe-Middle East is 20k in economy. Europe-India is 20k in economy.
So some of that US-India travel which used to cost 40k miles earlier this year will now cost a combined total of 42.5k miles or 50k miles (for using two awards where previously a single award was applicable).
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Apr 6, 2019, 8:43 am
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Good summary
Gary Leff has done a great job incorporating these brand new rules (along with some stuff I didn’t yet post/tweet) in a comprehensive guide:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...on-exceptions/
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...on-exceptions/
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Hi,
Anyone knows if, with the new routing rules, it would be possible to add a new EUROPE-AUH segment to an existing AUH-SYD ticket, issued prior to the recent changes? (And at the current mileage cost for a single award EUR-AUS). Thanks
Anyone knows if, with the new routing rules, it would be possible to add a new EUROPE-AUH segment to an existing AUH-SYD ticket, issued prior to the recent changes? (And at the current mileage cost for a single award EUR-AUS). Thanks