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joe_miami Sep 6, 2019 6:12 pm

How is JFK-MIA and the reverse as ExPlat? Assuming it’s generally a very tough upgrade, is there hope on midweek flights during off-peak periods? Thanks.

AANYC1981 Sep 6, 2019 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by joe_miami (Post 31499049)
How is JFK-MIA and the reverse as ExPlat? Assuming it’s generally a very tough upgrade, is there hope on midweek flights during off-peak periods? Thanks.

Ive had pretty good luck on this route but I only book the widebody planes because of the extra premium seats. Also with AAs atrocious operation there are often a lot of misconnects freeing up gate upgrade seats.

joe_miami Sep 6, 2019 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by AANYC1981 (Post 31499073)


Ive had pretty good luck on this route but I only book the widebody planes because of the extra premium seats. Also with AAs atrocious operation there are often a lot of misconnects freeing up gate upgrade seats.

Talk about good news, bad news. Haha.

Thanks for the info. Not what I was expecting.

bse118 Sep 6, 2019 7:15 pm

This week's flights:

DEN-ORD, 738, Tuesday morning - cleared at 100 hours [ended up moving day-of to an earlier delayed flight to avoid a potential misconnect, and sat in a exit row aisle, so did not actually fly this one]

ORD-DCA, 738, Tuesday afternoon - cleared at around 10 hours prior to flight

DCA-DFW, A321, Friday afternoon, cleared at 100 hours

DFW-DEN, A321, Friday evening, cleared at 100+ hours (same time as the prior segment)

Probably around 20K rolling EQD at this point.
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So I'm counting that as 3/3.

I'm sure someone will be along to tell me that upgrades never clear in advance; it's impossible to clear upgrades to/from DFW; upgrades only clear at off-peak times on non-business travel days; that I clear upgrades only because I fly from Denver; or some other nonsense.

joe_miami Sep 6, 2019 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by bse118 (Post 31499178)
This week's flights:

DEN-ORD, 738, Tuesday morning - cleared at 100 hours [ended up moving day-of to an earlier delayed flight to avoid a potential misconnect, and sat in a exit row aisle, so did not actually fly this one]

ORD-DCA, 738, Tuesday afternoon - cleared at around 10 hours prior to flight

DCA-DFW, A321, Friday afternoon, cleared at 100 hours

DFW-DEN, A321, Friday evening, cleared at 100+ hours (same time as the prior segment)

Probably around 20K rolling EQD at this point.
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So I'm counting that as 3/3.

I'm sure someone will be along to tell me that upgrades never clear in advance; it's impossible to clear upgrades to/from DFW; upgrades only clear at off-peak times on non-business travel days; that I clear upgrades only because I fly from Denver; or some other nonsense.

As someone who will be a first-time ExPlat soon but with low EQD, I wonder how much your EQD number is a factor—i.e., are you often beating out other lower-EQD ExPlats or mostly non-ExPlats?

bse118 Sep 6, 2019 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by joe_miami (Post 31499188)
As someone who will be a first-time ExPlat soon but with low EQD, I wonder how much your EQD number is a factor—i.e., are you often beating out other lower-EQD ExPlats or mostly non-ExPlats?

No real way of knowing that. I don't feel like 20K is a particularly high number or a particularly low one either. But that's just a "feeling" - I don't have any data about the status levels of people below me on the lists.

I've noticed no material change in my upgrade success rate compared to what it was it before the changeover to the EQD ranking system.

joe_miami Sep 6, 2019 8:26 pm


Originally Posted by bse118 (Post 31499265)
No real way of knowing that. I don't feel like 20K is a particularly high number or a particularly low one either. But that's just a "feeling" - I don't have any data about the status levels of people below me on the lists.

I've noticed no material change in my upgrade success rate compared to what it was it before the changeover to the EQD ranking system.

Thanks.

Finsup72 Sep 7, 2019 8:47 am


Originally Posted by AANYC1981 (Post 31499073)


Ive had pretty good luck on this route but I only book the widebody planes because of the extra premium seats. Also with AAs atrocious operation there are often a lot of misconnects freeing up gate upgrade seats.

Same, I don't think I've ever missed an upgrade on JFK-MIA except when I do a same-day change and J is already full.

AANYC1981 Sep 7, 2019 8:56 am


Originally Posted by Finsup72 (Post 31500598)
Same, I don't think I've ever missed an upgrade on JFK-MIA except when I do a same-day change and J is already full.

Yep and even then I am more than happy with 12A/J on the 763 or Premium Economy/MCE on the 777

ORDbird Sep 12, 2019 3:37 pm

Hi experts-
i have a mileage upgrade request for flight 533 SJD-PHX and flight 891 PHX-ORD on Sunday, 9.15. I’m most interested in the Phoenix-Chicago flight, and the cost to upfare was $1700. Should I safely assume I won’t clear as this probably means inventory is very low?
thanks so much!

JJeffrey Sep 12, 2019 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by ORDbird (Post 31518993)
Hi experts-
i have a mileage upgrade request for flight 533 SJD-PHX and flight 891 PHX-ORD on Sunday, 9.15. I’m most interested in the Phoenix-Chicago flight, and the cost to upfare was $1700. Should I safely assume I won’t clear as this probably means inventory is very low?
thanks so much!

Right now, SJD-PHX is sold out in business and PHX-ORD is J2, so still hope on that one.

dkc192 Sep 12, 2019 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by ORDbird (Post 31518993)
Hi experts-
i have a mileage upgrade request for flight 533 SJD-PHX and flight 891 PHX-ORD on Sunday, 9.15. I’m most interested in the Phoenix-Chicago flight, and the cost to upfare was $1700. Should I safely assume I won’t clear as this probably means inventory is very low?
thanks so much!


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 31519031)
Right now, SJD-PHX is sold out in business and PHX-ORD is J2, so still hope on that one.

As a PLT on a hub-to-hub on a popular business travel day at a popular business travel time? Very doubtful, to be honest.

zip10001 Sep 13, 2019 2:03 pm

AA 94 (JFK-MAD) upgrade Y->J for two people using Miles + Copay (as EXP) cleared ~30 hours before.
I received the alert from EF, then called AA to process the upgrade.
Still 100% success rate on TATL upgrades this year (6/6).

matt85 Sep 13, 2019 2:16 pm

Are there any long distance routes where AA usually has C space available? Asia, Europe, or anything. I've a few left that will expire in January, and looking for opportunities to spend them for a weekend trip.
Already checked the routes to PVG without much luck from October - January. I would like to avoid gambling and if at all possible clear it at booking. Forfeiting the upgrades is less painful than 12 hours Y...

Finsup72 Sep 13, 2019 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by matt85 (Post 31522211)
Are there any long distance routes where AA usually has C space available? Asia, Europe, or anything. I've a few left that will expire in January, and looking for opportunities to spend them for a weekend trip.
Already checked the routes to PVG without much luck from October - January. I would like to avoid gambling and if at all possible clear it at booking. Forfeiting the upgrades is less painful than 12 hours Y...

No. AA doesn't release any valuable C space on long distance routes until 36-48 hours before departure and therefore makes it very hard to plan long-distance vacations (even if the seat map is empty and ExpertFlyer shows >J7). You can certainly find readily available C space on a short-haul American Eagle flight though!


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