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enviroian Oct 16, 2019 10:28 am

I don't even look at the upgrade list anymore out of DFW. It's really not worth getting upset about. I'm already in a bulk or exit row and it's a domestic flight so no big deal. The comp upgrade days are just about over. Where it does matter is for SWU redemption of course.

Give me the bulk head, power, free streaming, a turkey wrap, biscoff, and diet sierra mist and I'm good to go.

JJeffrey Oct 16, 2019 10:30 am


Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 31634668)
I'm less than 48 hours out for a LGA-ORD flight, looks like J1 D1 R1 I1, 2 seats still open in first, still not clearing. Likely they make me sweat this out until the gate, or clear tomorrow if the seats are still there? EXP.

LOL, with only 1 seat left for sale up front, on a route like LGA-ORD on a Friday, of course you haven't cleared yet and it will most definitely go to the gate if that seats stays open. This is standard AA protocol.

GetSetJetSet Oct 16, 2019 10:30 am


Originally Posted by enviroian (Post 31634694)
I don't even look at the upgrade list anymore out of DFW. It's really not worth getting upset about. I'm already in a bulk or exit row and it's a domestic flight so no big deal. The comp upgrade days are just about over. Where it does matter is for SWU redemption of course.

Give me the bulk head, power, free streaming, a turkey wrap, biscoff, and diet sierra mist and I'm good to go.

looks like I am 7/15 on upgrade eligible flights this year as EXP with 20k+ rolling EQD, not great...

enviroian Oct 16, 2019 10:32 am


Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 31634711)
looks like I am 7/15 on upgrade eligible flights this year as EXP with 20k+ rolling EQD, not great...

That's my rolling EQD too. Are you Dallas based? I'm probably running at about 15% upgrade rate.

JonNYC Oct 16, 2019 10:33 am


Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 31634668)
I'm less than 48 hours out for a LGA-ORD flight, looks like J1 D1 R1 I1, 2 seats still open in first, still not clearing. Likely they make me sweat this out until the gate, or clear tomorrow if the seats are still there? EXP.

You’d actually expect them to give away the last available first class seat this far out???

GetSetJetSet Oct 16, 2019 10:37 am


Originally Posted by JonNYC (Post 31634736)
You’d actually expect them to give away the last available first class seat this far out???

There are two seats open, there were three this morning and there were 4 or 5 yesterday. Would I expect them to actually give upgrades to their best customers? Yes, I would. I know, I know...they probably already did give them to their "best" CK customers. Just a friendly reminder that if you're not CK, AA doesn't care.

GetSetJetSet Oct 16, 2019 10:38 am


Originally Posted by enviroian (Post 31634722)
That's my rolling EQD too. Are you Dallas based? I'm probably running at about 15% upgrade rate.

NYC based.

enviroian Oct 16, 2019 10:40 am


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 31634707)
LOL, with only 1 seat left for sale up front, on a route like LGA-ORD on a Friday, of course you haven't cleared yet and it will most definitely go to the gate if that seats stays open. This is standard AA protocol.

Right?! They'll be closing the door until the very last microsecond then finally release it LOL

enviroian Oct 16, 2019 10:42 am


Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 31634754)
There are two seats open, there were three this morning and there were 4 or 5 yesterday. Would I expect them to actually give upgrades to their best customers? Yes, I would. I know, I know...they probably already did give them to their "best" CK customers. Just a friendly reminder that if you're not CK, AA doesn't care.

In defense of AA, cough cough, they are trying to maximize revenue and I don't blame them for running a business this way. I've come to accept it's not 2009 anymore and Doug "We'll never lose money again" Parker is holding true to his promise

JonNYC Oct 16, 2019 10:43 am


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 31634707)
LOL, with only 1 seat left for sale up front, on a route like LGA-ORD on a Friday, of course you haven't cleared yet and it will most definitely go to the gate if that seats stays open. This is standard AA protocol.

Kinda 101 stuff, if ya ask me.


Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 31634754)
There are two seats open..

No, J1 D1 R1 I1 = 1 first class seat available for sale. You should get a better grasp on such things if you're going to attempt to rely on advanced tools to figure our your odds.


Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 31634754)
..Just a friendly reminder that if you're not CK, AA doesn't care.

So, act on it already.

GetSetJetSet Oct 16, 2019 10:59 am


Originally Posted by JonNYC (Post 31634777)
Kinda 101 stuff, if ya ask me.



No, J1 D1 R1 I1 = 1 first class seat available for sale. You should get a better grasp on such things if you're going to attempt to rely on advanced tools to figure our your odds.


So, act on it already.

There are two open in the seatmap on EF. I can't act on it, thanks to all of the airlines merging down to a cabal of three that essentially fix rates and offer exactly the same things we are left with no choices. Doesn't mean I have to be happy about it or lick the airline's boot while it stomps down on my neck like many FT'ers do.

tfizzle Oct 16, 2019 11:05 am

Quick question, I'm flying saturday from FRA-DFW and it shows J2, but when I try to actually book the flight it says there are four business class seats for sale. How does that work? Are they trying to oversell the cabin and downgrade someone. PE is also all sold out...

bse118 Oct 16, 2019 11:19 am


Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 31634851)
There are two open in the seatmap on EF. .

Let's put this in basic terms: unassigned seats are not the same as available seats.

AA has one seat available for sale - they should not allocate that seat to an upgrade this far in advance of departure.

JJeffrey Oct 16, 2019 11:19 am


Originally Posted by tfizzle (Post 31634868)
Quick question, I'm flying saturday from FRA-DFW and it shows J2, but when I try to actually book the flight it says there are four business class seats for sale. How does that work? Are they trying to oversell the cabin and downgrade someone. PE is also all sold out...

Where are you seeing that there are "four business class seats for sale?"

Looking at aa.com, when I search FRA-DFW on Saturday it says 2 seats left in business, which mirrors EF at J2.

GetSetJetSet Oct 16, 2019 11:32 am


Originally Posted by bse118 (Post 31634913)
Let's put this in basic terms: unassigned seats are not the same as available seats.

AA has one seat available for sale - they should not allocate that seat to an upgrade this far in advance of departure.

easy for you to say with your 85% clearance rate this year, I am sitting under 50% :D


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