Originally Posted by dkc192
(Post 31236054)
Looks like they've completely removed the A321T from the route starting 9/4 and extending past 10/3. That didn't last long.
I've got a F award ticket booked HND-LAX-BOS. When I booked it, both legs were in Flagship F. With the downgrade to a 2-class plane for the domestic leg, will I be able to use the Flagship lounge? I've got a layover that's just under 12 hrs and was hoping to be able to use the quiet room for a nap if needed between the flights. If not, I'll see about booking a day room at the Sheraton, I suppose. |
Originally Posted by ImprovGal
(Post 31236272)
Indeed.
I've got a F award ticket booked HND-LAX-BOS. When I booked it, both legs were in Flagship F. With the downgrade to a 2-class plane for the domestic leg, will I be able to use the Flagship lounge? I've got a layover that's just under 12 hrs and was hoping to be able to use the quiet room for a nap if needed between the flights. If not, I'll see about booking a day room at the Sheraton, I suppose. |
Originally Posted by AA2070
(Post 31089109)
If they made a 24J, 36MCE, 48Y version of the A321T, that would hit the sweet spot for this route. F is functionally no different than J aside from the food offferings and a slightly more private seat - not worth the premium. This A321T2 would also be able to turn BOS/DCA/IAD/MIA/PHL/JFK-LAX/SAN/SFO/SEA into actual Flagship Transcon routes.
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Originally Posted by beachfan
(Post 31236140)
It's a shame they don't have a two class narrowbody with lie flats suitable for the route. I'd bet that would do well.
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Originally Posted by ImprovGal
(Post 31236272)
Indeed.
I've got a F award ticket booked HND-LAX-BOS. When I booked it, both legs were in Flagship F. With the downgrade to a 2-class plane for the domestic leg, will I be able to use the Flagship lounge? I've got a layover that's just under 12 hrs and was hoping to be able to use the quiet room for a nap if needed between the flights. If not, I'll see about booking a day room at the Sheraton, I suppose. |
Originally Posted by beachfan
(Post 31236140)
It's a shame they don't have a two class narrowbody with lie flats suitable for the route. I'd bet that would do well.
But as American is an ultra low cost airline like Spirit, Allegiant, etc., hard to earn new premium traffic. |
Actually being based in NYC and flying to the west coast quite often, I disagree that American is " an ultra low cost airline". In fact my company only contracts with American for their business class product both on the ground and in the air. And many times I will use a SWU which gets me into the FFD dining area at JFK and LAX. Hardly an ultra low cost experience in my opinion....
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Originally Posted by MAH4546
(Post 31237016)
They do. They have 757s with lie flats. Lots of them, same exact seats as on the A321. But as American is an ultra low cost airline like Spirit, Allegiant, etc., hard to earn new premium traffic. For all the "cheapness" people complain about AA, I wouldn't even begin to put them into the ULCC category by any stretch. When they shut their lounges, gut the Advantage program and leave OW and any other airline partnerships, then we can talk about whether or not they have earned ULCC status in the race to the bottom. |
Originally Posted by PHL
(Post 31238367)
"Lots" is subjective. AA has a fleet of 34 757's, and only 10 of those have 12 lie flat seats up front. The remaining 24 have 16 standard (i.e. not lie flat) domestic business class seats.
For all the "cheapness" people complain about AA, I wouldn't even begin to put them into the ULCC category by any stretch. When they shut their lounges, gut the Advantage program and leave OW and any other airline partnerships, then we can talk about whether or not they have earned ULCC status in the race to the bottom. |
Originally Posted by PHL
(Post 31238367)
"Lots" is subjective. AA has a fleet of 34 757's, and only 10 of those have 12 lie flat seats up front. The remaining 24 have 16 standard (i.e. not lie flat) domestic business class seats.
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Originally Posted by Austin787
(Post 31238407)
Actually, the 16 J seat 757s are lie flat.
AA's issue with BOS flight to me is the price -- while DL UA and B6 sells BOS lie-flat cheaper than JFK lie-flat (and sometimes there's $499 oneway up front to BOS), AA prices BOS flight ridiculously high in comparison (~$800 oneway on 32T I fare) and this just does not make sense to me not flying DL/UA/B6 if I have to spend my own money. |
Originally Posted by JALOO5-Flyer
(Post 31238665)
To add onto it, the 12J LUS 757s are not fully lie-flat, as they only recline at ~170 degrees.
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Originally Posted by Austin787
(Post 31238407)
Actually, the 16 J seat 757s are lie flat.
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Denied From QF F Lounge
Originally Posted by tacostuff
(Post 31081880)
If I recall correctly, there was some ambiguity whether F on LAX-BOS on the A321T gets access to the QF lounge. Well, I accessed both the QF F and J lounges with my LAX-BOS F ticket. The QF F attendant questioned it initially, then let me in fairly easily. I then went to the J lounge, and they gave me a very hard time at first, but then after I pushed back, they let me in after calling a supervisor. While far from an "official" policy, it is one data point to add
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Originally Posted by ryanbriar
(Post 31321417)
An additional datapoint - I just tried to access the QF first lounge following my BOS-LAX segment (long layover up to Alaska) snd was swiftly denied. I was told that Flagship first does not grant access on a purely domestic itinerary. When I pressed, the front desk agent put me on the phone with the supervisor who explained the same thing. I’m not sure if it was because I was not departing from LAX, but it was not worth arguing over. Back to FFD it is! |
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