Wrong name on First Class Ticket...new main cabin booking...can I get the First seat?
May 16, 2018, 8:01 pm
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May 17, 2018, 8:11 am
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How would it have been fraud? Against terms and conditions, perhaps, but the wife should be in no legal jeopardy by flying under a potential married name (specially if she carries her marriage certificate). Newlywed brides fly like this all the time since papers haven't gone through.
It's also a purchase of a ticket you have no intention of using; you fully expect to refund it. That is arguably an element of legal fraud, but whether it really rises to actual fraud is a more involved question, and like nearly anything in law, not clearly black and white. Fraud would have to include (among other things) injury to the victim, and that's certainly debatable, probably dependent on the facts (e.g., how full was the flight, when did you cancel the reservation). Regardless, it's probably beyond the scope of this forum.
But to say this was "all kinds of fraud" certainly is out there...
May 17, 2018, 9:39 am
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But one could argue that the refundable ticket was a backup in case the first ticket didn't work for boarding...people buy refundable backup tickets all the time (business meeting contingency plans, etc.).
May 17, 2018, 9:52 am
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Well, it's definitely against AA's contract of carriage to purchase a ticket solely to access airport facilities, which is kind of what the goal was here (putting aside the issue of the surname on the other ticket). Note: Delta does not prohibit this in its own COC.
It's also a purchase of a ticket you have no intention of using; you fully expect to refund it. That is arguably an element of legal fraud, but whether it really rises to actual fraud is a more involved question, and like nearly anything in law, not clearly black and white. Fraud would have to include (among other things) injury to the victim, and that's certainly debatable, probably dependent on the facts (e.g., how full was the flight, when did you cancel the reservation). Regardless, it's probably beyond the scope of this forum.
But to say this was "all kinds of fraud" certainly is out there...
It's also a purchase of a ticket you have no intention of using; you fully expect to refund it. That is arguably an element of legal fraud, but whether it really rises to actual fraud is a more involved question, and like nearly anything in law, not clearly black and white. Fraud would have to include (among other things) injury to the victim, and that's certainly debatable, probably dependent on the facts (e.g., how full was the flight, when did you cancel the reservation). Regardless, it's probably beyond the scope of this forum.
But to say this was "all kinds of fraud" certainly is out there...
Because the purpose of 2nd the ticket was to go sit in the Admirals Club and then go home without flying....
the OP had bought TWO tickets for one passenger because he messed up the first one, there was no fraud; If anything he overpaid. sounds like an honest & unfortunate mistake that fortunately was fixed.
What's with FT being populated by people impersonating lawyers and telling people they're committing fraud when they're not? Gets so old