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American Airlines Orders 47 Boeing 787 Dreamliners in $12B Deal

Old Apr 7, 2018, 8:51 pm
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On April 6, American Airlines ordered 47 new Boeing 787 Dreamliners, took options for 12 more, cancelled its 22 A350order, and deferred 40 737 MAX 8 deliveries. Link to AA news release.

... 22, 787-8 of 242 seats and 25, 787-9 of 290 seats. The new planes will be delivered from 2020 to 2023 respectively. They will gradually replace Boeing 767s and 777s as well as the Airbus A330s in the American's fleet. The order will bring the American Airlines' Dreamliner fleet to 89 aircraft. Link to Airlinerwatch

The deal is valued at $12 billion at list prices. The airline will become the largest operator of 787s in the Western Hemisphere and is getting 22 787-8s and 25 787-9s.
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 5:58 pm
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Exclamation American Airlines Orders 47 Boeing 787 Dreamliners in $12B Deal

While it was whispered for weeks, it's finally official!

American Airlines Orders 47 Boeing 787 Dreamliners in $12B Deal

American Airlines said late Friday it had ordered an additional 47 Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft.

The deal, valued at $12 billion at list prices, includes 22 787-8s and 25 787-9s. Deliveries are slated to start in 2020 and 2023 respectively, and will make American, the worlds largest airline, the largest 787 operator in the Western Hemisphere....

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Old Apr 6, 2018, 6:40 pm
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That's billion with a b.
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This is great news. We can reasonably expect to see the 767s gone by 2024-25. Not sure how this will affect the A330-200 and 777-200 fleet.
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 8:52 pm
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I am not a fan of the 787 - seats are tighter even in J. Best is 77W, then 772. But with the changes adding PE, Coach is bad, but worst on the 787.

The 787 has a smaller J cabin so upgrades are hard to get. You will need to be buying PE if flying coach. Limited MCE as well.

With fewer seats - prices are going to be higher for international travel.

At least on UA - they have a lot more E+ seats - most of the middle section.
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AA is also deferring some 737-MAX aircraft. This tells me that AA is getting nervous about the economy and may be scaling back new narrowbody fleet acquisitions in favor of holding onto what's owned a bit longer.
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I'm so glad this included orders for more 787-8s. When the 763s are gone, they will need aircraft with a similar seat-count to continue routes to medium-sized TATL cities; and to start new markets. A 275+ seat aircraft might be too prohibitive to do so.
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Old Apr 7, 2018, 12:09 am
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At least no higgledy jiggedly Zodiac motion across the ocean J seats. If they continue with the BE Aerospace Super Diamond seats, theyll definitely be decent.
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Old Apr 7, 2018, 1:42 am
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Originally Posted by cova
I am not a fan of the 787 - seats are tighter even in J. Best is 77W, then 772. But with the changes adding PE, Coach is bad, but worst on the 787.

The 787 has a smaller J cabin so upgrades are hard to get. You will need to be buying PE if flying coach. Limited MCE as well.

With fewer seats - prices are going to be higher for international travel.

At least on UA - they have a lot more E+ seats - most of the middle section.

The seat width, especially in coach, is 787-specific (because it was designed for a roomy 8-across configuration but is just barely wide enough to fit 9-across in). But the J/W/Y+/Y- ratios have nothing to do with the airplane. I strongly suspect that any airplane AA ordered for this purpose (to replace 763s and 772s) would be configured with similar ratios.
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Originally Posted by JDiver
At least no higgledy jiggedly Zodiac motion across the ocean J seats. If they continue with the BE Aerospace Super Diamond seats, theyll definitely be decent.
do we know for sure they wont stick with the same jiggly seats for the 788?
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Originally Posted by JDiver
At least no higgledy jiggedly Zodiac motion across the ocean J seats. If they continue with the BE Aerospace Super Diamond seats, theyll definitely be decent.
Let it go, its really not as much of an issue as you'd make it seem.
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981


do we know for sure they wont stick with the same jiggly seats for the 788?
Although nothing is for certain, especially this far out, AA did fire Zodiac due to the extreme delays in supplying the original 787 seats, which had these "disturb thy neighbor" qualities.
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981


do we know for sure they won’t stick with the same jiggly seats for the 788?
Yes, we do.
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Old Apr 7, 2018, 7:28 am
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At least no higgledy jiggedly Zodiac motion across the ocean J seats.
Very poetic description of the seats - if I find myself in them again when I'm also writing a review for the magazine, I may borrow that (with appropriate attribution of course).
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While I'm a little disappointed they cancelled their A350 order, I don't think anyone will be sad to see the B767 and A330 fleets retired.
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Don't get your hopes up, I'm sure Mr. Parker is going to ask for these 787s to be stripped of IFE!
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