Interesting AA to DL IROPS Experience in -Up & Award in First
Apr 5, 2018, 9:14 pm
#16
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And where is said information specifically regarding instant upgrades? Where exactly do you find it and what exactly does it say such that if any normal person were to even find the information they would understand what it means?
Y-UP is basically a crock.
FWIW, DL's first class fares are based on underlying coach fares, but I'm not sure how they treat them in IRROPs/downgrades. You can do same-day/confirmed flight change to any available first class inventory (I think the same on AA?), although that is only free for DL Gold (50k) and higher, others have to pay $75, including companions on the same reservation as a Gold or higher. (And you have to call in to do SDFC). AA gives free SDC to all "first class" tickets.
Y-UP is basically a crock.
FWIW, DL's first class fares are based on underlying coach fares, but I'm not sure how they treat them in IRROPs/downgrades. You can do same-day/confirmed flight change to any available first class inventory (I think the same on AA?), although that is only free for DL Gold (50k) and higher, others have to pay $75, including companions on the same reservation as a Gold or higher. (And you have to call in to do SDFC). AA gives free SDC to all "first class" tickets.
DL --
FIRST CLASS FARES
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST CLASS SERVICE
.AA --
ECONOMY FARE WITH AN INSTANT ONE-CLASS UPGRADE AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE TO FIRST/BUSINESS.
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
Last edited by xliioper; Apr 5, 2018 at 9:27 pm
Apr 5, 2018, 10:02 pm
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This is all I see when searching LGA-ORD on 5/16/18 and choose a "First Class" fare. Oh, and then I click through five screens before finally, at the very bottom, is a small link to the fare rules.
Fare class is KVAUPNIF
Originally Posted by Rule Application and Other Conditions
UPGRADE FARES APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS SEATS ARE LIMITED
Apr 6, 2018, 10:09 am
#18
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I think it is a mistake for them to market it this way, at least from my little perch. If they marketed it as a coach seat with a built in upgrade, I would: 1) be able to purchase it within my company's 'coach only' flight rules. 2) Completely understand what I was getting myself into in an IRROPS situation. As it stands, I have to come out of pocket to buy the F upgrade.
Apr 6, 2018, 10:14 am
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I suspect you obtained that language from a third-party website.
This is all I see when searching LGA-ORD on 5/16/18 and choose a "First Class" fare. Oh, and then I click through five screens before finally, at the very bottom, is a small link to the fare rules.
Fare class is KVAUPNIF
Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. Like I said, it's a crock, and I hope one day it comes back to bite them. Where's Ben E. when you need him?
This is all I see when searching LGA-ORD on 5/16/18 and choose a "First Class" fare. Oh, and then I click through five screens before finally, at the very bottom, is a small link to the fare rules.
Fare class is KVAUPNIF
Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. Like I said, it's a crock, and I hope one day it comes back to bite them. Where's Ben E. when you need him?