Thousands of December AA flights scheduled without pilots?
Nov 29, 2017, 10:26 pm
#76
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They are paying PSA pilots 200% to pick up extra flights for this mess why shouldn't mainline pilots who work for the same company be given the same. The airline is wanting to do something outside of the contract why would anyone simply agree to have a signed contract walked over unilaterally.
Nov 29, 2017, 10:27 pm
#77
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They are paying PSA pilots 200% to pick up extra flights for this mess why shouldn't mainline pilots who work for the same company be given the same. The airline is wanting to do something outside of the contract why would anyone simply agree to have a signed contract walked over unilaterally.
Nov 29, 2017, 10:27 pm
#78
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I would guess doing so would be more expensive.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:04 pm
#79
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Makes sense that they would incentivize someone else to pick up the slack. You know, so that passengers can get home for the holidays and such.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:06 pm
#80
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Ask the union to write a LOA agreeing to more than the 150% cap and many of them will give up the day off and work.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:10 pm
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Nov 29, 2017, 11:14 pm
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Nov 29, 2017, 11:17 pm
#86
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Many of these pilots will not see christmas off for another 10 years, sorry but the IT system at AAL is awful this isn't the first time that this has happened and management will not fix the root of the problem. This is 100% on management asking pilots to take one for the team when management themselves will not, do you think Doug will be in the air on Christmas as a show of solidarity.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:56 pm
#88
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I'm thinking this could be a fantastic opportunity to milk the airline for compensation vouchers / miles. Think of it as payback for the lousy staff, AAdvantage cuts, basic economy BS, etc.
Nov 30, 2017, 12:26 am
#89
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it wasn’t a software fault that just automatically granted all requests for time off but bad planning on FRs part in not realising the implications of changing the annual leave year and pilots quite rightly wanting their contract terms met.
Nov 30, 2017, 3:46 am
#90
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that was a different situation and was caused by FR changing the annual leave year from the UK financial year ( April to March) to the calendar year leaving pilots with their holiday entitlement to take but having a much shorter period to take it in.
it wasn’t a software fault that just automatically granted all requests for time off but bad planning on FRs part in not realising the implications of changing the annual leave year and pilots quite rightly wanting their contract terms met.
it wasn’t a software fault that just automatically granted all requests for time off but bad planning on FRs part in not realising the implications of changing the annual leave year and pilots quite rightly wanting their contract terms met.
What I am still wondering is:
- Will the PSA pilots be enough to fill the gaps?
- Will AA reach an aggreement in time to save Christmas?
- Will they at least have the important routes covered(Longhaul and Transcon)?
but I guess it´s too early to tell, so let´s give them some time to work on it
