AA Axing LGA/YYZ??
#31
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Suppose the majority of NYC-based corporate accounts flying AC are comprised of STAR elites from UA who don't want to cross the Hudson to fly ex-EWR. But suspect the majority of corporate traffic also originates from YYZ visiting NYC-based HQs or financial institutions et al.
#32
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The only MCE seats on these planes is the first row bulkhead (which is pretty restricted in both leg room and overhead stowage. And the three emergency exit seats, which is what I opt for (12A) and find it's pretty much like a J seat on an RJ, particularly as I still get a comp drink and snack item. The two seats across the aisle are generally occupied, though it seems I'm the only ExecPlat since they're not getting offered the free drink/snack item.
Suppose the majority of NYC-based corporate accounts flying AC are comprised of STAR elites from UA who don't want to cross the Hudson to fly ex-EWR. But suspect the majority of corporate traffic also originates from YYZ visiting NYC-based HQs or financial institutions et al.
Suppose the majority of NYC-based corporate accounts flying AC are comprised of STAR elites from UA who don't want to cross the Hudson to fly ex-EWR. But suspect the majority of corporate traffic also originates from YYZ visiting NYC-based HQs or financial institutions et al.
I have to disagree with the sentiment that it's like a J seat on an RJ. I was sitting in 12A on E45 and it took a really long time for the service to get to me with only 1 FA. Whereas on E75, I got PDB and many snacks once in the air. Also just much more room on the E75 first class vs MCE on E45. And that doesn't even factor in the other minuses of a such a small cabin like your head hits the top when standing up from your seat.
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I agree with the sentiment that AC has won the corporate market. Have flown this route on AC for years and WS and AA a little bit recently. AC's load never seems to be great unless they cancel flights due to weather. Although in the recent years, it seems to be getting better. WS load was terrible when I flew it. AA flying e145 really isn't competitive against E90/A320/B737 that the other airlines fly. When i flew on E75, nobody purchased first class, it was all upgrades. So I can see why they went to E145. But even on E145, the MCE was empty, so that would tell me there is not many business class passengers. Either way, other than keep accumulating EQDs, there really isn't any reason for me to keep flying AA on this route.
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AA appears to be giving up on NYC in general. The amount of routes cut from JFK alone are staggering. I honestly don’t know why every other airline has made NYC work except AA (and UA). I’d move to DL before ever considering a shuttle to PHL to fly TATL.
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This is a result of more nonstop overseas flights from and to more cities, no longer requiring hub city airports like JFK. One of the reasons the US carriers never bought A380s is their desire to provide more point-to-point flights on B787, A350 and older generation mid-sized long range wide bodies from 2ndary cities across the US. This reduces the need to use gateway airports which are already getting too crowded.
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Thanks. There's no AM flight until late November. Doesn't exactly encourage business travelers to even consider AA as most corporate travel is booked in near term (none for the next 6 months). By the time November comes around, I think I'll stick with AC due to inflight WiFi and no need to gate check carry-on.
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Thanks. There's no AM flight until late November. Doesn't exactly encourage business travelers to even consider AA as most corporate travel is booked in near term (none for the next 6 months). By the time November comes around, I think I'll stick with AC due to inflight WiFi and no need to gate check carry-on.
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It sounds like @JonNYC is now reporting that this route is dead (although it still appears to be bookable and appears in my active reservations.)
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