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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jul 29, 2018, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by CSquared
Also, as far as seats go, it says you have the option to pay 48 hours in advance - but it doesn't say how much. Anyone know? Also, if you don't pay when check-in opens, are you able to go online and select a seat or change an assigned seat - for instance if you're in the middle and you see an aisle available? How open are they to letting you keep checking to see if a better seat is available.

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Old Jul 29, 2018, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Biggie Fries
Did you go yet (and, if so, how did it go?)

Came to the site for the same reason -- doing an E145 (maybe closer to 80 minutes) where one seat tends to be like another, and we (traveling with spouse) just carry on one bag apiece. Sounds like the only downsides will be losing 500 EQMs (RT) and not getting the exit row seats. But annoying to have to pay another $100 (RT, 2 persons) for that.
Wound up booking regular economy as it turned out being only $10.00 more....
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 4:22 pm
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I consider when there is Basic Economy fare available, you are basically paying to use your elite benefits. Was trying to find a good fare one way to Boston. The difference in fare is $144. That is $144 in order to get to utilize elite benefits. It hurts when I see $20 or $30. But this $144 difference is ridiculous. American really courting those occasional flyers with the basic economy. I guess repeat customers aren't as profitable anymore? $94 for Basic Economy, $238 for Main Cabin. I would post the image, but I don't have enough posts yet. Just sad and insulting. I chose to purchase neither at this time.
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Old Aug 9, 2018, 3:49 pm
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Can people comment from experience that they can take the usual allowance on these flights?
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 12:33 pm
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Seat selection with BA Silver (OWS) in Basic Economy

Hi,

I am looking to book some flights to Canada from London via the States. On American, if I have booked a basic economy ticket, am I able to get seat selection for free at the time of booking - as per usual with BA Silver (Oneworld Sapphire). I am not concerned with the other restrictions of the ticket.

Thanks
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tjumbo
Hi,

I am looking to book some flights to Canada from London via the States. On American, if I have booked a basic economy ticket, am I able to get seat selection for free at the time of booking - as per usual with BA Silver (Oneworld Sapphire). I am not concerned with the other restrictions of the ticket.

Thanks
No. And you can’t be reaccommodated on other airkines including IROPS, etc.
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Old Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
No. And you can’t be reaccommodated on other airkines including IROPS, etc.
I have a BA flight connecting through LHR and then AA to MIA. I was able to choose a free seat on the BA flight for free as BA silver, do you know if I am able to choose a seat for free within the 48 hour window before check in on the AA flight?


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Old Aug 15, 2018, 9:17 am
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[QUOTE=GNVFlyer;30017462]I am also betting the disputes at the gate were delaying flights since people did not expect something so draconian from AA even in badic economy and they thought it was cheaper to keep the flights on time. Remember, according to AA, 80 percent of all passengers only flew them once a year (their justification for basic economy in the first place)....On another note, sometimes the differential is huge for basic economy. I was looking at Wednesday, August 8 from PHL to MEM. Basic economy was $54 and main
<large pix removed showing Basic with "More Restrictions" very clearly in red type.

"The evidence" posted is quite clear about "MORE RESTRICTIONS" for BE fares. If I was a newbie, I certainly would have check on what the restrictions were before buying the ticket.
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Old Aug 15, 2018, 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by DreamTrip
I have a BA flight connecting through LHR and then AA to MIA. I was able to choose a free seat on the BA flight for free as BA silver, do you know if I am able to choose a seat for free within the 48 hour window before check in on the AA flight?
Does the booking show BASIC economy for the AA part of the trip?
What booking class does it show for that segment?
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Old Aug 16, 2018, 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by mvoight
Does the booking show BASIC economy for the AA part of the trip?
What booking class does it show for that segment?
Yes it shows B as the booking class.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 8:40 am
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Noticing now that the difference in Basic Economy and Main Cabin is only $6 each way for a round trip flight from Miami to Washington DC. I assume at this difference, they will just do away with Basic Economy soon?
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by BLawrence1
Noticing now that the difference in Basic Economy and Main Cabin is only $6 each way for a round trip flight from Miami to Washington DC. I assume at this difference, they will just do away with Basic Economy soon?
It must vary widely by market. I seeBE fares PHL-MCI for $70 and Main cabin are $298. Of note here is that Frontier flies this route also for about $70....
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by CSquared
...as far as seats go, it says you have the option to pay 48 hours in advance - but it doesn't say how much. Anyone know? Also, if you don't pay when check-in opens, are you able to go online and select a seat or change an assigned seat - for instance if you're in the middle and you see an aisle available? How open are they to letting you keep checking to see if a better seat is available..
I just checked in at T-24 for a flight and was assigned a seat in the 2nd last row. The seat map is 70% wide open, including about 20 MCE seats. But the seat map shows charges for any seat i would want to move to. $72 for MCE and $15 for another standard coach seat.

I somehow had the impression that once the 24 hour window was open, I could pick any seat (including MCE with my Gold status). Guess not.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by PHL
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I somehow had the impression that once the 24 hour window was open, I could pick any seat (including MCE with my Gold status). Guess not.
Upthread, there is the suggestion that elites on B fares avoid checking in online and wait for the airport.


There's more chance that remaining available seating will be better.
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Old Aug 23, 2018, 2:17 pm
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Iberia BE ticket with OW Sapphire

I booked a BE on an Iberia ticket MIA-MAD-ALC / LIS-MAD-MIA and am at OW Sapphire / Platinum Pro elite. The MIA-MAD leg is on AA metal (AA68); all other flights on Iberia metal. However, I was allowed to select seats - for free- on all of my flights, including the AA operated flight and exit rows/main cabin extra seats free. Ironically, seats in standard economy in the back (blue seats) required payment?

I have an AA PNR to access that portion of the reservation and although it gives me that standard BE warning about not being able to check a bag, pick seats, etc. - it still shows the seats I picked as my seats. Has anyone experience this before booking BE tickets on other OW tickets?
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