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Old Oct 22, 2016, 9:20 pm
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AA terminating codeshare with Air Berlin / AB – effective March 2017

http://aviationweek.com/awincommerci...ses-us-partner
http://www.aero.de/news-25278/Americ...ir-Berlin.html
http://www.tt.com/home/12164834-91/a...nes-bangen.csp

The end is nigh...

Should be interesting for those holding award seats on airBerlin... (that would include me).
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Old Oct 22, 2016, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by spongenotbob
http://aviationweek.com/awincommerci...ses-us-partner
http://www.aero.de/news-25278/Americ...ir-Berlin.html
http://www.tt.com/home/12164834-91/a...nes-bangen.csp

The end is nigh...

Should be interesting for those holding award seats on airBerlin... (that would include me).
There's apparently no announcement airberlin is leaving oneworld or opting out of awards? Theoretically the awards are still valid, unless of course airberlin shuts down. (Assuming Etihad is not going to follow other steps to keep its investment healthy, or at least alive.)

I might be looking at alternative airlines I could transfer my award to, for risk management purposes.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by spongenotbob
[url]http://aviationweek.com/awinco...Should be interesting for those holding award seats on airBerlin... (that would include me).
Zero effect on awards until/unless something else happens.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 12:31 pm
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Meh. Couldn't find any award availability with them anyway. Who cares.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
Meh. Couldn't find any award availability with them anyway. Who cares.
Has nothing to do with awards.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Has nothing to do with awards.
Got it, thanks for the clarification.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 2:15 pm
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I wonder what other European airline might eventually partner up wit AA to make up for this loss?
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by AAbuzzard
I wonder what other European airline might eventually partner up wit AA to make up for this loss?
There aren't really many destinations served by AB which aren't also served by BA, AY or IB. Yes there's a bit of a loss in central/eastern Europe but it's not a significant one.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 5:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1
There aren't really many destinations served by AB which aren't also served by BA, AY or IB. Yes there's a bit of a loss in central/eastern Europe but it's not a significant one.
actually I think AB's service to Greece and many of its islands out of Germany and Austria is pretty decent.....
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by AAbuzzard
I wonder what other European airline might eventually partner up wit AA to make up for this loss?
What loss?

It's only the codeshare numbers that will be going away.

You'll still be able to book airberlin flights on their own flight number through aa.com (as you can with any oneworld airline).

So why does AA need a replacement? How many people book a flight only if it has a codeshare number?
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 8:39 pm
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If so AA then really needs to add a JFK-FRA nonstop flight.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
What loss?

It's only the codeshare numbers that will be going away.

You'll still be able to book airberlin flights on their own flight number through aa.com (as you can with any oneworld airline).

So why does AA need a replacement? How many people book a flight only if it has a codeshare number?
If its a ticket for a federal traveler, they need to have a ticket on a US airline, even if its on a foreign carrier's metal.

I suspect this is AA mitigating its risk. If AA issues a ticket to go from XXX-YYY on AB metal and they go under, AA still has to get you there.
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Old Oct 25, 2016, 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by phil_flyer
If so AA then really needs to add a JFK-FRA nonstop flight.
Air Berlin doesn't fly FRA-JFK
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Old Oct 25, 2016, 1:13 am
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR
If its a ticket for a federal traveler, they need to have a ticket on a US airline, even if its on a foreign carrier's metal.
No - they can book on any US or EU airline as there is an open skies agreement between US and EU.
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Old Oct 25, 2016, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1
No - they can book on any US or EU airline as there is an open skies agreement between US and EU.
However, if one is continuing to a non EU destination then it must be on a "U.S. flag" carrier (including code-share). So to fly Miami to Moscow (or Budapest, etc), flying AB makes a lot of sense provided there is an AA code-share.
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