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Originally Posted by arlflyer
(Post 27083650)
Star Alliance
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Originally Posted by arlflyer
(Post 27083650)
To be clear, I was both an LUS and LAA flyer, the two serving different needs out of my home base of DCA. I do not think that it is necessarily fair to say that LUS management "has no idea how to do either" - they ran US quite well, well enough, in fact, to be able to afford bankrupt AA.
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I think I have said this before but this merger is literally bringing together the worst of both carriers. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
(Post 27067487)
I'd say, to the contrary-- it does, unfortunately, at present.
I've had more problems this year than I can remember in a long time. :td: |
Originally Posted by AANYC1981
(Post 27072094)
Sadly this thread and this latest Onemileatatime post makes me feel better. I'm a fairly easy going traveler (and let lack of PDB's go etc) but flying on AA this year has made my blood boil so many times that I actually dread an AA flight these days.
As a side note - my last flight to CLT was delayed due to WX (as were most flights going in/out that evening). Of course, my onward flight left on time. :rolleyes: The AC people at the B club were pretty pushy on either putting me on UA (UA thru ORD as a kettle with a tight connection? I don't think so!) or trying to find a flight that had the same revenue bucket available. Yeah, I get that getting booked into F would be a bit much, but there was very little left. Is it a requirement that they book you into the same revenue bucket for WX? I can understand that may be preferred, but when things go pear-shaped - why the aversion to just throwing me into a Y ticket and calling it good? I've had other agents do that. Is that the exception? |
Originally Posted by AANYC1981
(Post 27078394)
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Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 27085295)
The AC people at the B club were pretty pushy on either putting me on UA (UA thru ORD as a kettle with a tight connection? I don't think so!) or trying to find a flight that had the same revenue bucket available. Yeah, I get that getting booked into F would be a bit much, but there was very little left. Is it a requirement that they book you into the same revenue bucket for WX?
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Originally Posted by CIVET FIVE
(Post 27084965)
LUS was fundamentally an East Coast, shuttle-oriented shorthaul airline. That type of market dictates a product around getting out on time (because a 30-minute delay on a 1 hour flight means the train/driving/connecting to save $ is more competitive). LAA was not this at all, and when we say that Parker's management team "has no idea" its exactly this - they haven't figured out how to incorporate the shuttle product onto a full-service network carrier, and they haven't figured out how to integrate the full-service onto a shuttle carrier. What we are left with is, quite possibly, the worst of both.
I think Doug's issues come from the fact that he's had an LCC mentality for a very long time. While that may have worked being the junior US airline in *A, it doesn't work when you're trying to run a much larger airline with a more global reach. Doug made the same mistakes Smisek made in that he didn't work hard enough to keep enough legacy AA management in place so that they could work together as a team to bring the best that both offered. Instead, he took a somewhat softer version of Jeff's approach and still replaced a bunch of AA management with US management - and kept is ol' buddy Scott with him. So we now have a smaller airline used to do things that worked well in a niche market trying to apply those concepts to a much larger entity and market and it just doesn't work. The market and the beast are just too different. |
Originally Posted by rjw242
(Post 27085393)
If there is, they broke it for me a couple times this month. But in each instance I called the EXP line at the first sign of trouble, and they quickly accommodated me (albeit with downgrades).
Compared to what one AAngel did at the MIA AC for me to save my trips impacted by IRROPS - this was a very far cry from that service. |
Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 27085295)
... Is it a requirement that they book you into the same revenue bucket for WX?
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Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 27085454)
Doug made the same mistakes Smisek made in that he didn't work hard enough to keep enough legacy AA management in place so that they could work together as a team to bring the best that both offered.
Many of the issues I had post-merge and eventually jumped ship over were the logical consequences of continuing pmAA policies. IRROPS happen, but mass strandings at hubs don't have to happen every time there's a drop of rain. They did on pmAA, though, and continue to post-merger, because pmAA's Baghdad-Bob routine has been left fully in place. Which leads to "on time" boarding and closing of flights which only get you to a hotel room for the night (and that only if you're lucky). I've said it over and over: pmUS would start proactively rerouting people well in advance, or just admit there was a problem, cancel a flight and leave people at origin instead of overloading its hub with stranded passengers. pmAA would do everything in its power to pretend the flight was fine, it's on time, the weather is clear and beautiful, there's nothing to worry about... until "uhhhh... from the flight deck... uhhh... looks like, uhhh... DFW is in uhhh... ground stop for the next three hours, so we'll be uh.... sitting here...." Last month I decided to give it another go and burned some miles on an SFO-PHL run in F. The 5.5-hour return flight ended up being over 10 hours gate-to-gate because the mentality has infected the pmUS side of operations now, too. Never again; I'll find some other way to spend down my miles, and keep flying DL and AS (and KL/AF for my TATLs -- no Heathrow for me!). Even with DL's recent network outage they're still light-years ahead on reliability. |
MIA/PHX this morning a quick minor 2 minute mechanical issue is now running over 30 minutes with no word of why so long. Stranger is paxs keep coming on the a/c.
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Originally Posted by ubernostrum
(Post 27087424)
IRROPS happen, but mass strandings at hubs don't have to happen every time there's a drop of rain.
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Today at LAX it was a 90 minute venture from landing taxi to Eagles Nest,wait for agent, wait for bus toT4. Landing 40 minutes early meant nothing.
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Originally Posted by OskiBear
(Post 26987387)
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Seems like there are some serious reliability issues with AA and LAX. In the above thread, there's also a reference to the PVG flights and its issues |
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