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Please see FAQ: Missing / Skipping Segment - Hidden City / Point Beyond Ticketing (consolidated) for the active thread.
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May 8, 2013, 7:05 am
#901
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Thanks for your help in advance. I already booked a trip DFW-BOS-DFW and now I would extend my destination to the UK. It turns out that i can save few bucks and a lot of time by skipping my already-booked BOS-DFW return flight and making a new BOS-LHR-DFW multi-city booking. I would still need to fly DFW-BOS on the previoius booking, and the skipped return flight occurs at the same time as my new flight back to DFW.
Because of AA's asinine rule about charging $200 to drop a segment, I am forced into a tough decision. My question is, will AA notice the conflict on my return flights and cancel one or both bookings?
Because of AA's asinine rule about charging $200 to drop a segment, I am forced into a tough decision. My question is, will AA notice the conflict on my return flights and cancel one or both bookings?
Most likely they will. That's the gamble one takes when trying to buy a cheap fare that has associated fees rather than paying more for a changeable fare. Trying to change a non-refundable fare represents a failed gamble. Calling it asinine doesn't make it any less of a failed gamble.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Also one can alter their name ever so slightly (such as inclusion/deletion of a middle name, or using a nickname for the first name i.e. Sam instead of Samuel, Cathy instead of Catherine, Bob instead of Robert). I wouldn't do this in the OP's case as I think it's more important that ticketed name match passport name for int'l itineraries, plus the ticket with the altered name won't be PreCheck eligible, if that was of any concern.
May 8, 2013, 9:39 am
#902
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Cheers.
May 8, 2013, 9:59 am
#903
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I think getting caught at some point probably has something to do with what your name is. John Smith is probably not going to get caught as quickly as someone with a less common name. That being said, there are plenty of other matching points: phone number, credit card info (# and billing address) and secure flight info, to name a few.
May 8, 2013, 10:39 am
#904
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The view in that thread is that a ticketed flight would not be cancelled.
May 9, 2013, 12:02 am
#905
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Thanks for your help in advance. I already booked a trip DFW-BOS-DFW and now I would extend my destination to the UK. It turns out that i can save few bucks and a lot of time by skipping my already-booked BOS-DFW return flight and making a new BOS-LHR-DFW multi-city booking. I would still need to fly DFW-BOS on the previoius booking, and the skipped return flight occurs at the same time as my new flight back to DFW.
Jun 19, 2013, 12:08 am
#906
Join Date: Aug 2011
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getting off after first leg on flight - AA
If I get off at my connection stop and do not get on the 2nd leg of the flight, will I get the miles for the first leg of the flight on AA?
Jun 19, 2013, 12:10 am
#907
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Most likely, you will. If it's a normal occurrence, you might get into trouble.
Jun 19, 2013, 12:21 am
#908
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Standard response:
1. Yes, you'll get miles.
2. The rest of your itinerary will be cancelled, including the return if applicable.
3. Don't check bags.
4. Don't do this often.
5. Please search "hidden city". Oh heck, here you go:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html
1. Yes, you'll get miles.
2. The rest of your itinerary will be cancelled, including the return if applicable.
3. Don't check bags.
4. Don't do this often.
5. Please search "hidden city". Oh heck, here you go:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html
Jun 19, 2013, 12:34 am
#909
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Thanks a lot. I've never done this before and I booked my flights as 2 separate one-ways.
Jun 19, 2013, 12:19 pm
#910
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Has anybody ever been able to get their boarding pass checked in without actually entering the flight?
I.e. making the line and then getting the boarding pass scanned and then turning and walking away?
I.e. making the line and then getting the boarding pass scanned and then turning and walking away?
Jun 19, 2013, 3:22 pm
#911
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Presuming you're trying to get credit for a flight not taken. Probably against the T&Cs as well and may jeopardize your account.
Jun 19, 2013, 8:33 pm
#913
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Thus, once your boarding pass is scanned, you are pretty much obliged to continue on down the jetbridge and on the airplane. If you get sick or somehow decide not to fly on that flight before closing the doors, they will find and offload any luggage. You will also be documented as not taking that flight. (Happened to a friend of mine.)
I get the impression you are trying invent your way around the Hidden City situation. The airlines have pretty much seen all the cons and scams out there.
Jun 19, 2013, 10:56 pm
#914
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As others recommended, please do not do this.
But the answer is "Yes". We had that happen on a PA flight SFO-LHR. Said person had a bag checked, and ultimately we were pulled off the aircraft, sent to an isolated carousel, where everyone retrieved bags and rechecked them - minus the one quickly isolated bag that got the dog's intense interest and was taken very g-e-n-t-l-y away by EOD specialists after they ushered us back out. We departed four hours late, but feeling much better they had done their job in those early, pre-DHS days of security.
You do not want to do this; it could get nasty, not to mention it is fraudulent.
But the answer is "Yes". We had that happen on a PA flight SFO-LHR. Said person had a bag checked, and ultimately we were pulled off the aircraft, sent to an isolated carousel, where everyone retrieved bags and rechecked them - minus the one quickly isolated bag that got the dog's intense interest and was taken very g-e-n-t-l-y away by EOD specialists after they ushered us back out. We departed four hours late, but feeling much better they had done their job in those early, pre-DHS days of security.
You do not want to do this; it could get nasty, not to mention it is fraudulent.
Jul 3, 2013, 3:55 pm
#915
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What would happen if I skip one leg of a flight? [to be merged]
I don't know how to word the title, so I also had trouble searching for it. Here is my question
My son is flying thru DFW to Louisiana to see his grandparents in Louisiana. My parents live in Dallas. He might not be able to spend the full 2 weeks in Louisiana, so we were thinking my parents might pick him up in Dallas and then take drive him over to the other grandparents in Louisiana and he would fly home from there.
I seem to remember reading on here that if you didn't complete one leg of a ticket, the remainder of the ticket (return flight) would be canceled? Is this true?
My son is flying thru DFW to Louisiana to see his grandparents in Louisiana. My parents live in Dallas. He might not be able to spend the full 2 weeks in Louisiana, so we were thinking my parents might pick him up in Dallas and then take drive him over to the other grandparents in Louisiana and he would fly home from there.
I seem to remember reading on here that if you didn't complete one leg of a ticket, the remainder of the ticket (return flight) would be canceled? Is this true?