RUMOR: (incorrect) Elite Standby For a Later Flight No Longer Allowed (as of 3/21/16)
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RUMOR: (incorrect) Elite Standby For a Later Flight No Longer Allowed (as of 3/21/16)
Was at the DFW Terminal A Admirals Club this weekend looking to standby for a later flight, which is advertised as an option for elite members on AA.com. When I asked to do this, I was told that as on 3/21/16, the policy was revised to not allow this anymore. The person at the club informing me of this new change was someone who was training someone and was familiar with policy. She even showed me some sort of a "memo" that was dated 3/21/16 and showed the new policy and allowances.
I showed her the website, and told me she could make an exception for me and give me a same day change instead, but seats weren't available, so no-go there.
For another data point, I called later to the Platinum Desk regarding the same for another flight, since I didn't fully believe what I was told at DFW, as the website language was contradicting this. The Platinum Desk recited the same thing I was told at DFW and cited a recent change on the 21st. I told her about the website, which she checked and saw what I saw. She told me that they must have forgotten to update it and told me she would make an exception and do it, but warned me that with the loads on Sunday it wasn't likely to clear. I opted for my same flight in this case.
Anyone else have any information on this possible policy change? Is this just a rumor or an actual change? In the case this is true, it does appear that the agents can still do standby for a later flight in the system, but they are not supposed to do so. Obviously this would be a negative change, but I understand why in a way, as it is easy to have elite members get stuck and then get upset when they don't get on the later flight, where standby for an earlier flight doesn't strand a passenger.
I showed her the website, and told me she could make an exception for me and give me a same day change instead, but seats weren't available, so no-go there.
For another data point, I called later to the Platinum Desk regarding the same for another flight, since I didn't fully believe what I was told at DFW, as the website language was contradicting this. The Platinum Desk recited the same thing I was told at DFW and cited a recent change on the 21st. I told her about the website, which she checked and saw what I saw. She told me that they must have forgotten to update it and told me she would make an exception and do it, but warned me that with the loads on Sunday it wasn't likely to clear. I opted for my same flight in this case.
Anyone else have any information on this possible policy change? Is this just a rumor or an actual change? In the case this is true, it does appear that the agents can still do standby for a later flight in the system, but they are not supposed to do so. Obviously this would be a negative change, but I understand why in a way, as it is easy to have elite members get stuck and then get upset when they don't get on the later flight, where standby for an earlier flight doesn't strand a passenger.
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I haven't heard of any change like this but I'll check.
It would be a shame if this was the case because I planned to standby for a later flight for an upcoming trip next month, but I can see why AA would want to do away with it.
It would be a shame if this was the case because I planned to standby for a later flight for an upcoming trip next month, but I can see why AA would want to do away with it.
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So what happens when you don't clear the later flight. Or the one after that? You're just stranded?
Seems reasonable for AA to proactively clean up what could be a mess, I suppose.
Maybe elites could get access to expanded "E" inventory for SDFC? (Though frankly I don't know why they don't just require the original booking inventory, like I think DL and UA do in coach).
Seems reasonable for AA to proactively clean up what could be a mess, I suppose.
Maybe elites could get access to expanded "E" inventory for SDFC? (Though frankly I don't know why they don't just require the original booking inventory, like I think DL and UA do in coach).
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Pretty sucky if they do this. And if they do, it should be announced and they should still honor it for tickets bought before the change.
I've definitely purchased tickets knowing I'm likely to have to change but figured since the benefit is there, I may as well purchase now. Be nice to know for sure what the situation is.
I've definitely purchased tickets knowing I'm likely to have to change but figured since the benefit is there, I may as well purchase now. Be nice to know for sure what the situation is.
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I guess I could imagine a situation where people are using this to extend their trip, for example if you're flying a route that maybe has 2 daily flights at similar times. Maybe you "standby" for the later one (which might only be 15 minutes later), knowing that it is sold out, and end up with an extra day in (insert vacation city). But you do have to actually go to the airport to get put on the standby, so you'd be putting in a fair bit of effort.
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I was surprised to find this out too. I initially thought it was misinformation, but when the club showed me the "memo", heard it from a trainer, as well as the platinum line, something tells me that something is going on.
This wouldn't be the first unannounced change to something either.
This wouldn't be the first unannounced change to something either.
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So what happens when you don't clear the later flight. Or the one after that? You're just stranded?
Seems reasonable for AA to proactively clean up what could be a mess, I suppose.
Maybe elites could get access to expanded "E" inventory for SDFC? (Though frankly I don't know why they don't just require the original booking inventory, like I think DL and UA do in coach).
Seems reasonable for AA to proactively clean up what could be a mess, I suppose.
Maybe elites could get access to expanded "E" inventory for SDFC? (Though frankly I don't know why they don't just require the original booking inventory, like I think DL and UA do in coach).
I think the E inventory is more beneficial to people that book "O" class, as that tends to go away long before the flight actually takes place. It would be nice to have expanded availability, but I would only expect this kind of benefit for EXP members.
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I assume this doesn't prevent you from standing by for an earlier flight.
I, also, assume you are still allowed to confirm an earlier or later flight (within 24 hours of your original flight) if available for confirmation.
I guess allowing you to standby for a later flight puts you in a state of limbo.
I, also, assume you are still allowed to confirm an earlier or later flight (within 24 hours of your original flight) if available for confirmation.
I guess allowing you to standby for a later flight puts you in a state of limbo.
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I assume this doesn't prevent you from standing by for an earlier flight.
I, also, assume you are still allowed to confirm an earlier or later flight (within 24 hours of your original flight) if available for confirmation.
I guess allowing you to standby for a later flight puts you in a state of limbo.
I, also, assume you are still allowed to confirm an earlier or later flight (within 24 hours of your original flight) if available for confirmation.
I guess allowing you to standby for a later flight puts you in a state of limbo.
Correct. Per the agents and the "memo", you can still standby for an earlier flight for free as an elite member. You can do SDFC for $75 (free for EXP) for an earlier or later flight.
Standby for a later flight puts you in limbo if you don't make the flights. It is basically a gamble.
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My guess is confusion between Same-Day Standby and the standby policy (two different types of standby; later flights not allowed with the former) since I wasn't able to find out anything regarding a policy change. Phone agents are usually unable to offer standby for a later flight since that's only done at the airport.
What did the memo look like?
What did the memo look like?
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My guess is confusion between Same-Day Standby and the standby policy (two different types of standby; later flights not allowed with the former) since I wasn't able to find out anything regarding a policy change. Phone agents are usually unable to offer standby for a later flight since that's only done at the airport.
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My guess is confusion between Same-Day Standby and the standby policy (two different types of standby; later flights not allowed with the former) since I wasn't able to find out anything regarding a policy change. Phone agents are usually unable to offer standby for a later flight since that's only done at the airport.
What did the memo look like?
What did the memo look like?
This is just what I saw from the counter when the agent was explaining it to me while also training the new person next to her and showing her the differences and how to read the new "cheat sheet" as she called it.
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My guess is confusion between Same-Day Standby and the standby policy (two different types of standby; later flights not allowed with the former) since I wasn't able to find out anything regarding a policy change. Phone agents are usually unable to offer standby for a later flight since that's only done at the airport.
What did the memo look like?
What did the memo look like?
Another interesting thing stated in the Admirals Club was that they have been seeing some odd things lately, as the LUS agents "do whatever they want".
Again, just stating my experience from this weekend from what I was told based on what I knew I was able to do being a Platinum member. Figured this would be something to share and discuss considering the effects it could have if definitely the case, since nothing official has come out regarding this. Hopefully we can get some official clarification on exactly what the case will be.